Dubguy85 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Obama sucks... That is all!Not one Republican voted yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 yeah, cause insurance companies should have the right to deny you coverage for a pre-existing condition, and raise your rates when you get sick...teh end of teh woorrld! btw has it passed the senate? or just the house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I can't wait to read this thread in the AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Healthcare bill passed. Good luck to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohdaho Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 i pay no premiums and i have no choices....so im good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Another thread to sticky for the morning read... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) I DON'T like subtitle F part 1 Subtitle F - Shared Responsibility for Health Care Part I - Individual Responsibility (Sec. 1501, as modified by section 10106) Requires individuals to maintain minimal essential health care coverage beginning in 2014. Imposes a penalty for failure to maintain such coverage beginning in 2014, except for certain low-income individuals who cannot afford coverage, members of Indian tribes, and individuals who suffer hardship. Exempts from the coverage requirement individuals who object to health care coverage on religious grounds, individuals not lawfully present in the United States, and individuals who are incarcerated.Especially since someone can claim "religious objection" to health coverage... wait a sec ...looks like I found my loophole. Ðuaneism is now my official religion and opposes health coverage unless provided by an employer.Other than this, I think the bill is pretty good. Edited March 22, 2010 by magley64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 aside from subtitle F part 1 (as listed in the other thread on this subject) I am a fan of the bill... it makes a LOT of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 aside from subtitle F part 1 (as listed in the other thread on this subject) I am a fan of the bill... it makes a LOT of sense.My sister's insurance will go from three choices to a more expensive single "choice" Sounds fun.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 My sister's insurance will go from three choices to a more expensive single "choice" Sounds fun....could you elaborate on this please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) could you elaborate on this please?Retracted. Edited March 22, 2010 by chevysoldier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 could you elaborate on this please?And what my brother in law just told meAnd we have now lost all choices for insurance offered by our company to its employees. We are now all doomed to Obama-care since it will be less costly for the corporate shareholders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) This letter appeared in the Indianapolis Star (which is owned by the same people who own the Arizona Republic ) and was sent to a very popular Indiana Senator. This just goes to show everyone what pressure these Democrats are currently under, so continue to let them know how you feel about the healthcare bill. Bill Stough Shock to NBC This morning. An Indianapolis doctor's letter to Sen. Bayh about the Bill (Note: Dr. Stephen E. Frazer, MD practices as an anesthesiologist in Indianapolis, IN ) Here is a letter I sent to Senator Bayh.. Feel free to copy it and send it around to all other representatives. -- Stephen FraserSenator Bayh,...content.... Stephen E. Fraser, MDsnoped, and frauded...http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/frazer.aspI meant what "choices" specifically...IE she used to be able to buy from Antherm BCBS, Assurant, or CIGNA, and NOW she has to buy from X or whatever her exact situation was. Edited March 22, 2010 by magley64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 snoped, and frauded...http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/frazer.aspI meant what "choices" specifically...IE she used to be able to buy from Antherm BCBS, Assurant, or CIGNA, and NOW she has to buy from X or whatever her exact situation was.Thanks. Retracted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstrosity Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I can't wait to read this thread in the AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 What does the current bill say about HSAs? I don't really care about the rest of it. Am I allowed to keep my current plan? I know the previous Senate bill kicked HSAs to the curb' date=' so I'm a bit apprehensive of this bill. I can't seem to find information on it.[/quote']I just skimmed it, but all I could find in the 2409 pages was that the HSA could be taxed higher (20%) if it was not used for qualifying medical expenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 looks like all the fun is going on over here http://www.ohio-riders.com/showthread.php?t=55703... could we have these merged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I'm not looking forward to the ruckus this will cause on the RODO site...let's go see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienpi Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Once we get Obamacare we'll be much closer to the formation of the North American Union. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union It seems that it'd make sense, after a while, to assimilate Canada's healthcare. And then after that, it would make sense to go to universal currency, like the Euro. Maybe we should call it the Amero. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_currency_union Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 what could possibly go wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Before we have a revolution I'm hoping the Senate can find a procedural loop hole to keep this from passing. It’s dubious because they only need a simple majority now but it’s my last chance of hope to get this stupid piece of shit legislation killed. Next comes the constitutional challenges and the hope the republicans can get the majority back in both the house and senate to repeal it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienpi Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 what could possibly go wrong?I met a motorcyclist from Manitoba (Canada) down at the Dragon this past October. (He rode an old yellow Ducati 748, which was basically his track bike, all the way from Manitoba! {over 1000 miles [one way]}) He said that his motorcycle insurance is outrageous because motorcycling is considered high-risk activity. So despite universal healthcare he has to pay more because he's a motorcyclist. He explained that somehow the motorcycle insurance pays money for the additional healthcare.Could other high-risk activities be a cause for additional taxes? It seems like a slippery slope to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 The slippery slope is a huge fucking mountain. High risk activities like a high fat diet could be outlawed. How about an hour of government mandated exercise every day? Traffic tickets equals higher healthcare premiums. The actuaries the government will be using will be much broader than the ones insurance companies are using. There is nothing wrong with an insurance company raising a rate for high risk activities it's your choice to pay the cost. When your high risk activity affects the rest of us because it costs us money the government should legislate that activity out of existence to save us from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20thGix Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I dont think most will have to worry about the daily hour goverment mandated exercise with all the jumping to conclusions, and flying off the handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I have only begun. Wait until the libtard Justin gets here tomorrow and start posting links to other people’s opinions on how this is a good thing. That's when the real fun will start. I really don't expect this will stay on topic too long. I will be posting up all kinds of things speculating about what this bill is because it hasn't totally passed yet so we don't know what's in it yet. They have to pass it before we will know what's in it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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