beezer Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) May I suggest another Italian Bruise日http://allmotorcyclepictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/2010-Moto-Guzzi-Griso-1200-8V-SE.jpg Edited February 3, 2011 by beezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenTwelve Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 May I suggest another Italian Bruise日http://allmotorcyclepictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/2010-Moto-Guzzi-Griso-1200-8V-SE.jpgYou may not.... It's really no comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 May I suggest another Italian Bruise日http://allmotorcyclepictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/2010-Moto-Guzzi-Griso-1200-8V-SE.jpgAwesome! For a Moto-Guzzi... Which means very little in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 The McQueen/Hasselhoff conundrum Our old buddy JT Nesbitt got pretty upset when he heard that Motorcyclist’s Aaron Frank had used a comment he’d left on HFL without permission. He got even more upset when Aaron dismissed his criticism’s of that bike’s design. So upset, in fact, that he stopped work on his CNG-powered art deco custom roadster and wrote this rant for us unsolicited. Here’s JT’s thoughts on crashing bikes, the Ducati Diavel’s design and hassling the Hoff. — Ed.The rest of the article in the link: http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2011/02/the-mcqueenhasselhoff-conundrum/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beezer Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 You may not.... It's really no comparison. I see your point, the Guzzi costs half as much and will run without problems for years instead of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzie Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 The rest of the article in the link: http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2011/02/the-mcqueenhasselhoff-conundrum/Told 'yaOh, andddd.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenTwelve Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 I see your point, the Guzzi costs half as much and will run without problems for years instead of weeks.Ummmm.... They cost the same and the Guzzi has 50 fewer horsepower. I don't hate Moto Guzzi but, c'mon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Ben should be whoring us out as a focus group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beezer Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Ummmm.... They cost the same and the Guzzi has 50 fewer horsepower. I don't hate Moto Guzzi but, c'mon.My original post was simply making the point the Motorcyclist was throwing around all this marketing drivel that Ducati had invented a new catagory and other horse hockey. The Griso was there first not to mention V-Max and the V-rod (sortof.) With euro 3 going to 4 and coming to America soon, there won't be any air cooled motors soon because the the detuning required to meet the standards has all the bikes running so lean most of the horsepower will soon be going to running the water pumps that will be needed. But while you can still get one, having spent too much of my time and money dealing with cooling system repairs, (draining refilling, thermostats, pumps, head gaskets, hoses etc., etc) any bike I was planning on keeping for awhile would have to be air cooled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Why the Diavel is the best bike Ducati makeshttp://hellforleathermagazine.com/2011/02/why-the-diavel-is-the-best-bike-ducati-makes/We’ve criticized the Diavel’s design. JT Nesbitt, a designer who’s work was referenced during the Ducati’s creation, compared it to David Hasselhoff. But, the question that’s remained unanswered is: how does the Ducati Diavel perform? English journalist Kevin Ash, not known for pulling his punches, just finished riding the bike in Spain. I think he liked it. — Ed. Article in the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beezer Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 My original post was simply making the point the Motorcyclist was throwing around all this marketing drivel that Ducati had invented a new catagory and other horse hockey. The Griso was there first not to mention V-Max and the V-rod (sortof.) With euro 3 going to 4 and coming to America soon, there won't be any air cooled motors soon because the the detuning required to meet the standards has all the bikes running so lean most of the horsepower will soon be going to running the water pumps that will be needed. But while you can still get one, having spent too much of my time and money dealing with cooling system repairs, (draining refilling, thermostats, pumps, head gaskets, hoses etc., etc) any bike I was planning on keeping for awhile would have to be air cooled. It has to be the crassest thing in the world to quote yourself, but since everyone else is doing it, then I guess it is OK... to wit"Many in the media define the Diavel's marketing position by claiming it's Ducati's version of a Yamaha VMax or Harley Davidson V-rod, fitting it into the muscle-cruiser sub-catagory, whatever that is. But maybe it should be thought of more as competing with the Moto Guzzi Griso 1200 8V.... But if you step outside of today's narrow niche rules and expectations of what a bike has to be and remember that Moto Guzzi used to win road races... then maybe the Diavel is just a motorcycle.." Cycle World magazine May 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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