Casper Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFuEir2N1HoMight have to buy some of that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) Might have to buy some of that....Doubt it. FYI, If those are true Raufoss rounds they are in .50 cal. There is a similar version in .30 cal called SLAP rounds which only had a Pentatrator and no explosive material. The Raufoss are comprised of a combination of PETN/RDX compound and a tungsten penetrator. Prices for 1 round of .50 are approximately $75 each MINIMUM to get ahold of and Ive seen them as high as $200 each. Zirconium powder is added for a long burning effect and maximum fire starting effect. It can ignite JP4 and JP8 military jet fuel. Zirconium will set anything on fire its pretty bad ass.The Zirconium powder also adds report flash for the shooter to see exactly where the round impacted, as the explosive is detonated by the pressure of the penetrator and the incendiary mixture impacting a HARD object (steel plate) and pushes the explosive charge and detonation through the other side, and the zirconium powder (also used in fireworks for a 'brilliant' sparkling effect) ignites on both sides with big bright brilliant report ensuring the shooter sees exactly where he hit. Remember, these rounds are meant to be used at ranges exceeding 1500m. They have no real effect however on soft targets (troops in the open) or earthen bunkers, as it does not allow reliable operation of the method of detonation, which requires impact upon a hard target.Also, use at ranges under 300-400m will result in unreliable detonation, due to fragmentation of the rounds jacket before reliable operation of detonation system, though the big carbide penetrator will still do some damage.Pic of how they are assembled.If they are just incendiary rounds then they just spark and look pretty. Nothing like the Raufoss NM140 at all. Edited June 28, 2011 by flounder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 We used incendiary rounds in the USMC. Are these available to civilians? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beegreenstrings Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 We used incendiary rounds in the USMC. Are these available to civilians?Highly doubt that... Or I should say, not legally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 My understanding is that they are available if you can find a source. I dont believe they are considered a Destructive Device by ATF as they do not contain enough explosives material. You cannot load AP rounds anymore but if you find some that are already loaded, you can purchase and fire them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Not a lot of good could come from having these in the hands of civilians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 .223 and 7.62x39 @ Ammunition to go.com$80 / 20 rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) OK guys, one thing to remember is that there is a big difference between an incendiary round and a Raufoss round although people that dont know tend to group them together. Incendiary means just that - Sparks and crap.AP - Armor PiercingRaufoss NM140 is - Incindiary, Explosive, Armor Piercing and only made in .50 cal!After saying that, Im going to guess those are just simple incendiary rounds in that vid and not Raufoss Edited June 28, 2011 by flounder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted June 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 OK guys, one thing to remember is that there is a big difference between an incendiary round and a Raufoss round although people that dont know tend to group them together. Incendiary means just that - Sparks and crap.AP - Armor PiercingRaufoss NM140 is - Incindiary, Explosive, Armor Piercing and only made in .50 cal!After saying that, Im going to guess those are just simple incendiary rounds in that vid and not RaufossI think you grouped them together. I called them "Super Incendiary Ammo", which is the name of them. They're made by Northern Arizona Munitions. Centerfire calibers are 20 for $80. Handgun calibers are 20 for $45. And for the record, you shouldn't doubt it. When we going shooting next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beegreenstrings Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 would be fun shooting the little camp propane cylinders with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Im down for shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 I'll drive down for shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wht_scorpion Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 I love tracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 I think you grouped them together. I called them "Super Incendiary Ammo", which is the name of them. They're made by Northern Arizona Munitions. Centerfire calibers are 20 for $80. Handgun calibers are 20 for $45. And for the record, you shouldn't doubt it. When we going shooting next? The video title also says Raufoss round in the title. I may shoot next weekend but it will be Long Range stuff. I get board with anything much under 600 yards anymore to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 I'll drive down for shooting. I will car pool with this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 So when we shooting? LOL Flat fish I still need to pick up a long range rig before I try 600 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/user/FPSRussia#p/u/6/RP4FjODPDFASkip a few minutes in to see the dragon's breath rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Seen them before gotta be great for your gun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf1000ride Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Ammo knowledge. As of 1994 here is the list of 50cal ammo the military was loading. (dang old manuals)CALIBER .50 CARTRIDGESCartridge, Caliber .50, Ball, High Pressure Test, M1 Cartridge, Caliber .50, Blank, M1 Cartridge, Caliber .50, Incendiary, M1Cartridge, Caliber .50, Tracer, M1 Cartridge, Caliber .50, Blank, M1A1Cartridge, Caliber .50, Ball, M2Cartridge, Caliber .50, Ball, Armor Piercing, M2Cartridge, Dummy, Caliber .50, M2Cartridge, Caliber .50, Ball, Armor Piercing Incendiary, M8 Cartridge, Caliber .50, Tracer M10Cartridge, Caliber .50, Tracer; M17Cartridge, Caliber .50, Ball, Armor Piercing Incendiary-Tracer, M20 Cartridge, Caliber .50, Incendiary, M23Cartridge, Caliber .50, Ball, M33Cartridge, Caliber .50, Ball, Spotter-Tracer, M48A1 Cartridge, Caliber .50, Ball, Spotter-Tracer, M48A2 Cartridge, Caliber .50, Ball, Plastic Practice, M858 Cartridge, Caliber .50, Tracer, Plastic Practice, M860 Cartridge, Caliber .50, Saboted Light Armor Penetrator (SLAP),M903Cartridge, Caliber .50, Saboted Light Armor Penetrator-Tracer(SLAP-T), M962Cartridge, Caliber .50, Ball, Practice, T249E2Cartridge, Caliber .50: Armor Piercing Incendiary (API), MK 211MOD 0You can get the bullets themselves (not loaded ammo) from http://patsreloading.com/patsrel/prices.aspx?category=BulletsThey carry,BallIncendiaryAPIAPITand tracers.You can also get loaded ammo from;http://www.ammunitionstore.com/categories/50-BMG-Ammunition/?sort=priceascIn just about all the variants I listed above in just the bullets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunshow Nick Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 I love that russian guy. he has a bunch of videos on youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 You can get the bullets themselves (not loaded ammo) from http://patsreloading.com/patsrel/prices.aspx?category=BulletsThey carry,APIAPITYou can also get loaded ammo from;http://www.ammunitionstore.com/categories/50-BMG-Ammunition/?sort=priceascIn just about all the variants I listed above in just the bullets.Just an FYI but API and APIT are ILLEGAL TO LOAD PER ATF!!! Buy them sure, but as soon as you reload one your ass can be in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf1000ride Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I would have to research to confirm that one. I didn't think there where any regulations as to that being you can buy the bullets and the fully loaded ammo. I had never looked into to deep as I don't own a .50bmg, I have those links just as a good reference for places that sell 30cal stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Hmmmm im getting ideas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf1000ride Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Dang the ATF has made their website miserable to navigate. None of my old links work anymore and you can't find shit. Never fails the government doing something totally awesome to make your life harder.Anybody that wants to determine if API or APIT is legal to reload yourself, your gonna have to do your own search. I spent 2 hours and got nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Dang the ATF has made their website miserable to navigate. None of my old links work anymore and you can't find shit. Never fails the government doing something totally awesome to make your life harder.Anybody that wants to determine if API or APIT is legal to reload yourself, your gonna have to do your own search. I spent 2 hours and got nowhere.everything im reading online says its legal to reload them, you just cant "make" the bullet ....so if you buy the components and assemble them, i dont see why it wouldnt be allowed...but i could be wrongheres a link i found with some lawshttp://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIG1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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