chevysoldier Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Does this seem morally wrong to anyone else?http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/01/rep-schweikert-to-obama-stop-buying-your-own-books-with-taxpayer-money-please/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/25/state-department-buys-70000-worth-obama-memoir/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 I dont see what the problem is here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 I dont see what the problem is here.Spending your tax dollars to buy his book? Not to mention he profits from that. Its not major money but here we are in debt and this is how our money is spent? Thar doesn't seem the least bit wrong to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Really what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I was sarcastic Josh. Like I would be if I said Eric Holder s the best thing gun owners have going for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 Ah. Gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cbrbrent Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 Someone should get fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chevysoldier Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 None of the Obama fan boys wanna defend this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrown57 Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 None of the Obama fan boys wanna defend this?There's nothing to defend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) There's nothing to defend This.Per the article Casper posted:1) These decisions were made by people in the state dept.2) Its common to give books away as gifts of diplomacy3) Obama personally stands to gain, what, around $6,000? And he typically donates over 40x that much each year. So, 90% of that money went to whatever publishing company printed the books, "creating" or keeping those jobs... I figured the conservatives would be happy about that So, there's nothing to defend. No matter what Obama does or doesn't do - haterz gon hate. Billions spent by Bush playing in the Iraqi sandbox, and people are raising a fuss over $70k of "waste" on diplomacy that wasn't even directed by Obama to buy his books.Got it. Edited November 4, 2011 by JRMMiii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrown57 Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I dont vote dont have a say and I plan to stay that wayI enjoy the occasional Trolling You bring up some good points and ppl will find things to bitch about no matter how small weather its regarding Bush, Obama or anything elselike you said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 This.Per the article Casper posted:1) These decisions were made by people in the state dept.2) Its common to give books away as gifts of diplomacy3) Obama personally stands to gain, what, around $6,000? And he typically donates over 40x that much each year. So, 90% of that money went to whatever publishing company printed the books, "creating" or keeping those jobs... I figured the conservatives would be happy about that So, there's nothing to defend. No matter what Obama does or doesn't do - haterz gon hate. Billions spent by Bush playing in the Iraqi sandbox, and people are raising a fuss over $70k of "waste" on diplomacy that wasn't even directed by Obama to buy his books.Got it.I actually agree with the socialist Justin on this one. This has nothing to with Obama from what I read except the book is about him. We have enough stuff against the socialist in chief why nit pick stuff he doesn't control. This nit pick crap is what the liberals do, if we go down that path we are no better than the America haters like Justin. Why bush spent that money with congressional approval, Justin your messiah has continued the spending and started another conflict in Libya! What business do we have being in Libya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I actually agree with the socialist Justin on this one. This has nothing to with Obama from what I read except the book is about him. We have enough stuff against the socialist in chief why nit pick stuff he doesn't control. This nit pick crap is what the liberals do, if we go down that path we are no better than the America haters like Justin. Why bush spent that money with congressional approval, Justin your messiah has continued the spending and started another conflict in Libya! What business do we have being in Libya? While many here enjoy the baseless name calling, accusations, and general perjorative nature of your posts Charles from Salem, you let me know when you want to get beyond a 5th grade level of debate tactics and want to have an adult discussion. Mmmkay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I like how it's still "Bush's War". While many here enjoy the baseless name calling' date=' accusations, and general perjorative nature of your posts Charles from Salem, you let me know when you want to get beyond a 5th grade level of debate tactics and want to have an adult discussion. Mmmkay?[/quote']I'm good Mr. America hating faggot socialist communist homo Justin! I'm sure its Bush's fault they're buying Obama's book. Right homo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I'm good Mr. America hating faggot socialist communist homo Justin! I'm sure its Bush's fault they're buying Obama's book. Right homo?I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. Regardless, man of your previous posts remind me people like you is why I won't come out as being "republican" or "democrat" because you all fucking ruin this country. Its the normal people like myself that are somewhere in the middle that actually make shit work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. Regardless, man of your previous posts remind me people like you is why I won't come out as being "republican" or "democrat" because you all fucking ruin this country. Its the normal people like myself that are somewhere in the middle that actually make shit workIt's really just a tif between a socialist faggot homo communist America hater (Justin) and a conservative racist troll teabagger from Salem, Ohio! I'm not sure where the America hater is from, Salem Ohio (me)!Sorry bad324 if it came across as more than a return of the name calling that the socialist homo started! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 It's really just a tif between a socialist faggot homo communist America hater (Justin) and a conservative racist troll teabagger from Salem, Ohio! I'm not sure where the America hater is from, Salem Ohio (me)!Sorry bad324 if it came across as more than a return of the name calling that the socialist homo started!i get to call him a socialist homo because its in jest but when you do it, its annoying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) This.Per the article Casper posted:1) These decisions were made by people in the state dept.Very good. Who said they weren't?2) Its common to give books away as gifts of diplomacyYou want to keep saying "Well Bush did...". So As per Casper's article:A review of the expenditures in a federal database did not reveal any examples of State Department purchases of books by former Presidents George W. Bush or Bill Clinton Obama and Clinton didn't benefit from the sale of any of their books. If Obama was smart, he would come out and say "I had no idea this was happening. We don't have the money for this and it's wrong for me to gain financially from the spending of your tax dollars. I am therefore ceasing the buying of my books with your money and donating 100% of the profits to _______" I won't hold my breath.3) Obama personally stands to gain, what, around $6,000? And he typically donates over 40x that much each year. So, 90% of that money went to whatever publishing company printed the books, "creating" or keeping those jobs... I figured the conservatives would be happy about that So the ends justify the means is what you're saying. Heck, we could start laundering money. Imagine all the jobs we could make. And Obama could skim some money off the top. It'd be just a little so it's not a big deal. So, there's nothing to defend. No matter what Obama does or doesn't do - haterz gon hate. Billions spent by Bush playing in the Iraqi sandbox, and people are raising a fuss over $70k of "waste" on diplomacy that wasn't even directed by Obama to buy his books.Got it.Again, why are you hung up on Obama being the one who did it? I don't think the articles said he did and I didn't say it. Defensive or something? How many other frivolous expenditures do you think there are? I mean it's just $70K. We have a surplus of money and all. It's not that much money in the grande scheme of things, we can splurge. This has nothing to with Obama from what I read except the book is about him. Wow, you too? Let me go back through the articles and the posts......The only place I think you guys could have gotten the Obama bought the books would be from my post:Spending your tax dollars to buy his book? Not to mention he profits from that. Its not major money but here we are in debt and this is how our money is spent? Thar doesn't seem the least bit wrong to you?I guess you were trying to infer something that wasn't there. Maybe I should have said:The state department is spending your tax dollars to buy Obama's book? Not to mention Obama profits from that. Its not major money but here we are in debt and this is how our money is spent by the state department? Thar doesn't seem the least bit wrong to you? Edited November 5, 2011 by chevysoldier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 You want to keep saying "Well Bush did...". So As per Casper's article: Obama and Clinton didn't benefit from the sale of any of their books. If Obama was smart, he would come out and say "I had no idea this was happening. We don't have the money for this and it's wrong for me to gain financially from the spending of your tax dollars. I am therefore ceasing the buying of my books with your money and donating 100% of the profits to _______" I won't hold my breath.I use Bush as an example because its RECENT and usually because 'if its its good for the goose, it should be good for the gander' to keep the hypocrites at bay. Obviously this isn't an example because they didn't buy Bush's or Clinton's books, but has anyone actually read the books listed in the article? Maybe the subject matter is relevant to diplomacy vs. Bush or Clinton books which, iirc, are memoirs post-presidency, which aren't really relevant until after-the-fact.So the ends justify the means is what you're saying. Heck, we could start laundering money. Imagine all the jobs we could make. And Obama could skim some money off the top. It'd be just a little so it's not a big deal. So, you're accusing the state dept of laundering money to the president? Really, that's where you wanna take this argument? Again, why are you hung up on Obama being the one who did it? I don't think the articles said he did and I didn't say it. Defensive or something? How many other frivolous expenditures do you think there are? I mean it's just $70K. We have a surplus of money and all. It's not that much money in the grande scheme of things, we can splurge. I'm only hung up on it because I got trolled into the 'where are all the Obama defenders in this thread?' comment, plus - I had time to argue in between test runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 I use Bush as an example because its RECENT and usually because 'if its its good for the goose, it should be good for the gander' to keep the hypocrites at bay. Obviously this isn't an example because they didn't buy Bush's or Clinton's books, but has anyone actually read the books listed in the article? Maybe the subject matter is relevant to diplomacy vs. Bush or Clinton books which, iirc, are memoirs post-presidency, which aren't really relevant until after-the-fact."Of Thee I Sing" is a kid's book so I doubt it has much to do with diplomacy...So, you're accusing the state dept of laundering money to the president? Really, that's where you wanna take this argument? Re-read it. Did I say I was accusing the state department of laundering money? Nope, sure didn't.I'm only hung up on it because I got trolled into the 'where are all the Obama defenders in this thread?' comment, plus - I had time to argue in between test runs.uh huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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