Hydrant Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 *Here are snippets from a book of "Impressions & Observations" of Secret Service personnel assigned to guard U.S. Presidents/First Ladies, and Vice Presidents.* Don't know how true / false this is, this was from one of those "crazy" internet emails. Just thought it was interesting.JOHN & JACQUELINE KENNEDY : *A philanderer of the highest order. * *She ordered the kitchen help to save all the left-over wine during State dinner, which mixed with fresh wine and served again during the next White House occasion.* *LYNDON & LADYBIRD JOHNSON *Another philanderer of the highest order. In addition, LBJ was as crude as the day is long.* *Both JFK and LBJ kept a lot of women in the White House for extramarital affairs, and both had set up "early warning systems" to alert them if/when their wives were nearby. Both Kennedy & Johnson were promiscuous and oversexed men. * *She was either naive or just pretended to "not know" about her husband's many liaisons. * *RICHARD & PAT NIXON ** * *A "moral" man but very odd and weird, paranoid, etc. He had horrible relationship with his family, and in a way, was almost a recluse.* *She was quiet most of the time.* *SPIRO AGNEW:** Nice, decent man, everyone in the Secret Service was surprised about his downfall. * *GERALD & BETTY FORD: ** * *A true gentlemen who treated the Secret Service with respect and dignity. He had a great sense of humor.. * *She drank a lot!* *JIMMY & ROSALYN CARTER: ** * *A complete phony who would portray one picture of himself to public and very different in private, e..g., would be shown carrying his own luggage, but the suit cases were always empty; he kept empty ones just for photo op's. Wanted the people to see him as pious and a non-drinker, but he and his family drank alcohol a lot. He had disdain for the Secret Service, and was very irresponsible with the "football" nuclear codes. He didn't think it was a big deal and would keep military aides at a great distance. Often does not acknowledge the presence of Secret Service personnel assigned to serve him.* *She mostly did her own thing.* *RONALD & NANCY REAGAN: ** * *The real deal --- moral, honest, respectful, and dignified. They treated Secret Service and everyone else with respect and honor. Thanked everyone all the time. He took the time to know everyone on a personal level. * *One "favorite" story which has circulated among the Secret Service personnel was an incident early in his Presidency, when he came out of his room with a pistol tucked on his hip. The agent in charge asked: "Why the pistol, Mr. President?" He replied, "In case you boys can't get the job done, I can help." It was common for him to carry a pistol. When he met with Gorbachev, he had a pistol in his briefcase. Upon learning that Gary Hart was caught with Donna Rice, Reagan said, "Boys will be boys, but boys will not be Presidents." [He obviously either did not know or forgot JFK's and LBJ's sexcapades!]* *She was very nice but very protective of the President; and the Secret Service was often caught in the middle. She tried hard to control what the President ate, and he would say to the agent "Come on, you gotta help me out." The Reagans drank wine during State dinners and special occasions only; otherwise, they shunned alcohol; the Secret Service could count on one hand the times they were served wine during their "family dinner". For all the fake bluster of the Carters, the Reagans were the ones who lived life as genuinely moral people.* *GEORGE H. & BARBARA BUSH: *Extremely kind and considerate Always respectful. Took great care in making sure the agents' comforts were taken care of. They even brought them meals, etc. *One time Barbara Bush brought warm clothes to agents standing outside at Kennebunkport ; one agent who was given a warm hat, and when he tried to nicely say "no thanks" even though he was obviously freezing, President Bush said "Son, don't argue with the First Lady, put the hat on.." He was the most prompt of the Presidents. He ran the White House like a well-oiled machine.* She ruled the house and spoke her mind.* BILL & HILLARY CLINTON: **Presidency was one giant party. Not trustworthy --- he was nice because he wanted everyone to like him, but to him life is just one big game and party. Everyone knows of his sexuality.* She is another phony. Her personality would change the instant cameras were near. She hated with open disdain the military and Secret Service. She was another one who felt people are there to serve her. She was always trying to keep tabs on Bill Clinton.* ALBERT GORE: An egotistical ass, who was once overheard by his Secret Service detail lecturing his only son that he needed to do better in school or he "would end up like these guys" --- pointing to the agents.* GEORGE W. & LAURA BUSH: The Secret Service loved him and Laura Bush. He was also the most physically "in shape" who had a very strict workout regimen. The Bushes made sure their entire administrative and household staff understood to respect and be considerate of the Secret Service. KARL ROVEwas the one who was the most caring of the Secret Service in the administration.* *She was one of the nicest First Ladies, if not the nicest; she never had any harsh word to say about anyone.* BARACK & MICHELLE OBAMA: " Clinton all over again" - hates the military and looks down o n the Secret Service. He is egotistical and cunning; looks you in the eye and appears to agree with you, but turns around and does the opposite---untrustworthy. He has temper tantrums.* She is a complete bitch, who hates anybody who is not black; hates the military; and looks at the Secret Service as servants.* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello dude Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Great stuff - interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapesmuggler27 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 For some reason that's exactly what I see when I look at Michelle Obama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Not one of those surprised me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrant Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 For some reason that's exactly what I see when I look at Michelle Obama.Exactly what I thought myself, and for Hussein Obama. Even for the other presidents for some reason all of the above seem pretty close to what I would think they would be like.I have read that both of the Bushes were loved by the Secret Service, the elders especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Very interesting. I remember when I was a kid Barbara Bush read children's books on the radio on Sunday mornings. I used to listen to that almost every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 i got a tenner that's fake. Someone has a hard-on for Republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleaveTheGreat Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hmm...no conservative/republican bias in these or anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Interview with the author of the book on the Jon Stewart Show. Stewart's a Liberal, no? http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-3-2009/ronald-kessler*** edit - the Dailyshow, not Jon Stewart show. Sorry, don't watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello dude Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 ^^^ The guy is just sellin books...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Posted up in response to the "Republican bias" comment.I don't give a rat's ass is they guy sells one book, or if Carter or Bush was the bigger delta-bravo.My guess: Reagan was a good guy, Mrs. G.H.W. Bush (the first Mrs. Bush) was as nice as the nicest grandmother you ever met, and the rest of them, Presidents and wives, were probably d-b's, as most politicos are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorifto240 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 i got a tenner that's fake. Someone has a hard-on for Republicans.Because it couldn't possibly be true that Kennedy loved the ladies, or LBJ & Clinton were assholes... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Not one of those surprised me.agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiomike Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/s/secret-service-presidents.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Because it couldn't possibly be true that Kennedy loved the ladies, or LBJ & Clinton were assholes...Exactly what I was thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) i got a tenner that's fake. Someone has a hard-on for Republicans.lol yeah thats what i thought when i read it too... republicans are great people and all the democrats are assholes.try to find this "impressions and observations" book on amazon...also, there is this:Philip H. Melanson's history of the Secret Service makes no mention of protective agents experiencing the problems ascribed to either Bill or Hillary Clinton. The only such issue discussed therein was that President Clinton's penchant for spontaneity and interacting with the public often made the job difficult for his Secret Service detail:Clinton needed the crowds — and drove his Secret Service bodyguards crazy. On the campaign trail, he would order one unscheduled stop after another. He would walk every inch of long rope lines, determined to shake each and every hand stretched out to him. The spontaneity proved nervewracking and never ended once he was elected. Clinton always resisted the idea that he had to live in the Secret Service bubble. His friend, Arkansas State Police Captain Buddy Young, who was Clinton's security chief for a decade in his home state, said, "I don't think he likes all this Secret Service business. It's just such a circus." Until the Lewinsky scandal isolated Clinton from the public appearances he relished, his agents came to realize that they had to be ready for him veering into crowds, restaurants, and other public places anytime, anywhere. His security was always a fluid proposition for his detail.As Melanson also noted, Secret Service agents would have considered it a serious breach of professionalism for one of their number to have publicly disclosed this sort of personal information about their charges:The Service's unwritten code of silence dictates that agents keep their observations to themselves. Today, many agents still do not want to accept that anyone among the Clintons' protective details broke the long-understood rule: "There's no way we would have talked about it. There's an agency culture, an unwritten code. That was a pretty tough time for us [because people accused us of breaking the code]." Edited February 15, 2012 by John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrant Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 lol yeah thats what i thought when i read it too... republicans are great people and all the democrats are assholes.That was always my impression. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 try to find this "impressions and observations" book on amazon... http://www.amazon.com/Presidents-Secret-Service-Behind-Protect/dp/030746136X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329346772&sr=8-1 http://www.amazon.com/Presidents-Secret-Service-Behind-Protect/dp/030746136X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329346772&sr=8-1OK, found it. Give me something harder. Ronald Kessler is a well known best selling author of books about the Secret Service and FBI. I've read several of his books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) nvm, Tom found and posted it b4 I did... Edited February 15, 2012 by jblosser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester851 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Very interesting. I remember when I was a kid Barbara Bush read children's books on the radio on Sunday mornings. I used to listen to that almost every week.I grew up in that era, and remember this as well. I was just thinking the other day about how the gulf war was the last time I could truly remember people coming together, being patriotic and supporting our military. I remember my grandparents taking me to a parade for the troops on a saturday, we all wore something that represented our country, and i can remember my grandfather giving me a Desert storm hat to wear as well.Anyone else feel like most of the population is so far stuck up their own ass that they can't see what piss poor shape this place is in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Seems like folks these days are a lot more behind the people of the military than they were during Vietnam.John Q. Public may not support the war(s), but at least they (we) are supporting the warriors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idodishez Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hope it's true, but I have to admit it does have a heavy right bias. NoBama 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 The very little I watched of that video I posted I heard him saying the Bush twins were basically idiots.Most likely true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 i got a tenner that's fake. Someone has a hard-on for Republicans.If it swung the other way you would 110% be behind though huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 In the President's Secret Service: Behind the Scenes with Agents in the Line of Fire and the Presidents They Protecthmm the way i was reading it, i thought the book was called "impressions and observations"does this book actually say these things claimed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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