pista Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Leave the restaurant. A bunch of people did so.The guy killed 2 and wounded 1. i heard he had to go to three different locations in the restaurant to hunt down and kill/attempt to kill his family. (wife at register, one daughter in bathroom, another in the party room.) After seeing a gun and hearing the first shot, I would feel obligated to step in and defend others. Let the courts sort out the details later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 I would bet that they had a cpz sign up. Most of the places around there do. Good thing that sign stopped this mentally unstable person from bringing a gun in an killing people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 I'm not saying I think a CCW holder should have retreated in that situation; I'm just pointing out that there is a duty to retreat when the option exists. Anywhere but in your home or vehicle, whether or not you had a duty to retreat is technically a question that a jury should decide. Everyone's personal feelings on HOW a jury should decide are irrelevant until they're seated on said jury. I honestly don't know if I'm happy the cops killed this guy, or if I'd rather see him rot for 40 years, and then be strapped down and injected.I really feel most badly for the poor girl who is still clinging to life... IF she pulls through, she's got a lifetime of issues ahead of her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 :rolleyes:What the no gun sign didn't stop him? Only the law abiding people who could have maybe helped save lives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 And yeah the poor kid faces a long hard road if she pulls through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Interwebz says Cracker Barrel restaurants do not prohibit CCW. Zooming in on the store front doesn't show any prohibit signs. It's possible some one there might have been CCW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 911 tapes link - courtesy of cleveland.comhttp://media.cleveland.com/metro/other/zplayer.swf?mp3=http://media.cleveland.com/pdextra/audio/brooklyn-shooting-cracker-barrel.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 I drive by there on the way home from work maybe I swing by and check it out. I have heard the tapes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cOoTeR Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 I'm not saying I think a CCW holder should have retreated in that situation; I'm just pointing out that there is a duty to retreat when the option exists. Anywhere but in your home or vehicle, whether or not you had a duty to retreat is technically a question that a jury should decide. Everyone's personal feelings on HOW a jury should decide are irrelevant until they're seated on said jury. I honestly don't know if I'm happy the cops killed this guy, or if I'd rather see him rot for 40 years, and then be strapped down and injected.I really feel most badly for the poor girl who is still clinging to life... IF she pulls through, she's got a lifetime of issues ahead of her.So your saying that if a shooter points a gun at someone else and I'm there legally with my gun I have to retreat? That is not what it means otherwise the protect others part is impossible! If the person being attacked has the means to escape then you can't shoot. But how many people do you know that can out run (escape) a slug or shot fired from a shotgun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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