RidersDiscount Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Riders Discount is now a stocking dealer for Alien Motion batteries!Alien Motion may be a new name to many of you, but they have been designing and manufacturing lithium ferrous (LiFeP04) batteries in this configuration for longer than most of their competitors. If you haven’t already, we highly recommend the upgrade to a LiFePO4 battery. These work very well whether you ride a sportbike and want to shed some weight or a have a cruiser and just want a reliable, maintenance free battery.Alien Motion’s lithium ferrous batteries are hand-made in the USA and use a unique internal chemistry that allows them to store 3 – 4 times the energy of a conventional lead acid battery. They don’t only store more energy though - they store it for a lot longer. Lithium ferrous batteries have a very low rate of discharge, which means that you can let them sit for a year without a charge and still have enough juice to start your bike. One of the very few downsides is that they are a bit sensitive to the cold. You will want to store the battery indoors if you plan on letting it sit for extended periods. It’s not all about better performance though - these things are also ridiculously lightweight.The first thing you notice when you pick up a lithium ferrous battery is that they are incredibly light. Weight savings of up to 80% versus an equivalent lead acid battery mean that some applications stand to shed up to 10 pounds in battery weight alone! The small size of this type of battery also means that you end up with a lot of extra room in the battery compartment. Other brands require that you custom cut pieces of foam to secure the battery, but this is not an issue with Alien Motion. They include a perfectly shaped, high-density foam carrier with all 4-cell and 8-cell batteries so that you can drop it right into place without worrying about the fit.We have these in stock and ready to ship in 4-cell, 8-cell, and 12-cell configurations.12-cell - $129.99 (Retail - $139.99)8-cell - $99.99 (Retail - $109.99)4-cell - $64.99 (Retail - $69.99)Free Shipping in Lower 48 StatesAlien Motion batteries are designed, engineered and manufactured in the USA, carry a 180 day warranty and come in at an industry leading price. They are not listed on our website yet, so be sure to give Nathan a call at 866-931-6644 ext. 809 to order yours today! You can also send a PM through the forum or send a note to FORUM at RIDERSDISCOUNT dot COM and we’ll get right back to you.High-density foam carriers come with every 4-cell and 8-cell battery so that you don’t have to worry about securing it into place.With 4-cell, 8-cell and 12-cell in stock, nearly all applications covered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APCh8r Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 They look just like the ballistic batteries with a different badge on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMMW Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 They look just like the ballistic batteries with a different badge on it...Did ja' get one for your R6 yet? They are amazing light and powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APCh8r Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Did ja' get one for your R6 yet? They are amazing light and powerful.I have a ballistic battery in my R6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidersDiscount Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 You're right considering the owners of Alien Motion made the original Ballistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Guessing they come with the cool rubber condum? I really need to get one of these batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Craig, I think your money is better spent paying other the fast guys to be slower than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I need to buy them more drinks on saturday night so they are hungover on sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidersDiscount Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Guessing they come with the cool rubber condum? I really need to get one of these batteries.Yes for the ultimate in protection...but seriously, yes it's included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidersDiscount Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Also, double check the rules of the racing org you guys are running with so you're not buying yourself into the next class on accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 We are good at Motoseries, they run superbike rules.4 or 8 cell for 600cc race application? I think some say the 4 is fine, I think that is what Nick got.Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidersDiscount Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 i use 8 cell in my r6. 4cell is pushing it for sure but doable with the Yamaha's and Kawasaki's. There's only a small difference in weight between the 4-8cell, you'd be better off and more reliable with the 8-cell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 If these new lithium batteries are so good why are they only offering 180 day warranty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidersDiscount Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 If these new lithium batteries are so good why are they only offering 180 day warranty?I can get you the more expensive Ballistic battery that has the full warranty if you'd like.Alien Motion are confident in their product and durability. Generally with these batteries, if something's going to go wrong it's going to happen soon after purchase which is why Alien Motion didn't feel the need to have a full year warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Good info thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuikAccord Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I have made these myself for the last couple years for myself and friends. I recommend an 8 cell. A 4 cell will start the bike at first but if you stall you may not be able to get the bike started again right away. I run an 8 cell myself under the seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuikAccord Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 If these new lithium batteries are so good why are they only offering 180 day warranty?Sometimes these batteries don't handle a deep cycle very well and cannot always recover from being fully drained. I have a 4 cell that has been deep cycled a few times and has recovered fine each time. I made an 8 cell and accidentally drained it once and had to replace two of the cells right away. It can be a crap shoot whether or not a cell will survive a deep cycle or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 How do they do in cold weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidersDiscount Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Colder weather is a little more sensitive. If you're planning on storing your bike, remove the battery and keep inside. Day to day activity is fine though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansky Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Do these require a "special" charger or will my tender work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuikAccord Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Don't need tending just toss it on shelf and it will be ready when you are ready a few months later. If it is low a tender will be just fine to give it a little boost. As far as the cold goes, I've had no problem with my 8 cell in cold weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) ballistic batteries have been failing like crazy on all kinds of people on other forums I'm a member of. yeah ballistic replaces the batteries but some guys are on the 3rd and 4th battery so far in 2 years time.I'd stay the hell away from those.shorai is the only company that makes the internal battery cells properly. thus making the battery itself much better than the cylinder design.http://www.shoraipower.com/t-faq.aspxpersonally I'd never bother with a lithium battery for street use. I've had the same GS battery in my bike since it was built in sept 2002. that's correct, the stock battery is still working 100% in my bike. and I never use a tender. it is an agm though. they don't need winter maintenance.http://www.gsbattery.com/ Edited June 20, 2012 by serpentracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Do these require a "special" charger or will my tender work?These do not need tending as they only lose ~10% of battery life per year. If you need a boost you can use a normal tender for 10-15 minutes max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidersDiscount Posted June 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 ballistic batteries have been failing like crazy on all kinds of people on other forums I'm a member of. yeah ballistic replaces the batteries but some guys are on the 3rd and 4th battery so far in 2 years time.I'd stay the hell away from those.shorai is the only company that makes the internal battery cells properly. thus making the battery itself much better than the cylinder design.http://www.shoraipower.com/t-faq.aspxpersonally I'd never bother with a lithium battery for street use. I've had the same GS battery in my bike since it was built in sept 2002. that's correct, the stock battery is still working 100% in my bike. and I never use a tender. it is an agm though. they don't need winter maintenance.http://www.gsbattery.com/Alien Motion batteries are not Ballistic and they are assembled using a newer style cell. Alien Motion batteries are also produced on a smaller scale with what we would consider very good quality control.As far as Ballsitic there have been some issues however as you said they have taken care of their customers. Lithium Ion batteries are definitely not for everyone however for those people looking to drop some weight off their bike it is a very good option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello dude Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) How do they do in cold weather?I am running a competitor 8 cell LiFePO4 Battery - really these are all assembled with A123 cells in different cases. Generally I like it and it has done the job. There have been some problems with this technology where the bike sits overnite with temps dropping into the 40s and the battery loses its punch. That's what you have to look out for. Something to think about if you go on a trip. But in summer, no problems. I like this for my VFR, but dont think I would go with it for a big touring bike. Edited June 21, 2012 by mello dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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