2thDr Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 (Bike is an 07, gsxr 600 with 5900 miles. It has been in a low side. Appeared cosmetic. Bike started and test rode fine on the day of purchase...)Bike is fairly new to me (had it about a week). I've been riding it everyday back and forth to school. Pretty easy riding, nothing above 7K rpm. Started up fine, everytime. Even on these cold mornings, somewhere around 35 degrees.So I let my room mate ride it on thursday night. He's got an R6, knows how to ride, so I wasn't concerned. Well, he put it through the paces. He was all the way up towards redline, and I saw him trying to power wheelie it infront of my apartment. Parked it in the garage and all seemed fine. I went to start it Friday morning, and it wouldn't start. Tried to turn over, but wouldn't hold. Saturday I pulled the plugs, and cleaned them, but it's still the same. This mornings, I put in brand new plugs, and it started for around 10 seconds, and then bogged and shut off. Old plugs seemed saturdated with oil. White smoke comes out of the exhaust, whenever I can get it to start.Put it in dealer mode, and it's not throwing any codes (reads -C00)http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php...52171810325537 (here's a crappy video that my friend took)I've got a picture of the plugs, but it's simple.... they are dark and wet with oil. ha Bike has fresh oil, and fresh gas, and fresh plugsAny thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 How does the Antifreeze look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDBGoalie Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 This is why you don't let people use your stuff. Especially with no supervision. Sounds like your buddy owes you a engine rebuild.Since it ran for ten sec and died, and the plugs are coated in oil, I'd lean away from blaming spark or fuel. Oil and electrodes don't really get along well.Could have washed out the rings..Do a compression test. If that turns out fine (Unlikely), I'd do a leakdown next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Copeland Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 ^^^^This ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 This is why you don't let people use your stuff. Especially with no supervision. Sounds like your buddy owes you a engine rebuild.Since it ran for ten sec and died, and the plugs are coated in oil, I'd lean away from blaming spark or fuel. Oil and electrodes don't really get along well.Could have washed out the rings..Do a compression test. If that turns out fine (Unlikely), I'd do a leakdown next.That's my guess. If it is smoking white it is burning something extra. Oil or antifreeze. Rings or head gasket.....Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 I'd guess headgasket with the info provided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Battery should be fine. It's not a lugging problem. But just to make sure, I will take the battery out of my track bike and try it. Can't comment on the coolant. I was going to do a flush but then this problem started. The reserve bottle is empty though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 These motors are HARD to kill!!! Wonder if there was/is coolant in it at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 These motors are HARD to kill!!! Wonder if there was/is coolant in it at all?That's a good question. Easy lay over could have drained all the fluid somehow. Overheated it from low fluids and toasted the rings maybe?Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Just checked the radiator. It's full of fluid, the resevoir bottle is just near empty...Pulled the battery and have it on a tender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Actually says that's it's charging too.But if it's just the battery, how does that explain the oily plugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 I don't think its oil. These bikes have horrible charging system and when its not charged weird things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Legit. I will try this battery out and report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Put the battery back in (wasn't done charging). It started, but dies after.... say 20 seconds. Exhaust has the smell of unburt, or excess fuel. Tried to give it a quick rev, and the light got brighter, but faded fast. Certainly does seem like a charging issue. Why would it come on so quickly though? There was no preemptive problems. The thing started like a champ before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I would toss a match in the gas tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Charge battery over night and give it another try. These years have HORRIBLE stators and rectifiers. Also battery's can go bad at any time and cold seems to bring it out of them. The ECU needs full power to control fuel injection and fire coils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDBGoalie Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Hopefully this solves your problem.But if the plugs are really coated in oil, that shows a seal problem.If they are coated in fuel, that is to be expected with a poor spark.If the charged battery gets the bike running again, check the plugs after and make sure they are dry. No white or black electrodes is good too.Also test the charging system once you get the bike running to make sure that is good since gixxie pointed out that these systems are weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 If I can get it running, what's the best way to check the charging system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I think its like 14 volts on the battery terminals at 5000 rpm for my bike. The GSXR shouldnt be far offSent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Ramey Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 check for gas check the tip sensor check for spark check to see if the bike is getting fuel.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 With a fully charged battery `12.4V and revving to around 5000RPM is should be 14.4V. as long as it raises above 13.5 it should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 It started right up. Won't stay on long though. I got it so it will stay on if I hold it at a revved position. I need another set of hand though to hold the volt meter. I will try again later when I get some help.The exhaust was wet on the inside, and was smoking something fierce, white smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Alright. Bike is running at a cool 12.9 just sitting and at around 14.2 while up to 5K rpm. It will shut off if I let off the throttle. One of the cylinders isn't firing. Smells of unburn fuel.Gotta be valves, or some shit ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjascott Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Could be onwe of the ignighters is bad/unplugged from wheelies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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