2thDr Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Just as an aside... I put it in dealer mode, and all of this stuff is A-OK. I got the C00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Pull the plugs again and see whst they look like. I would check compression while I was at it.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I was thinking that. I gotta go buy a compression tester kit thing. I've never had to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 compression is probably fine. Could have a bad coil. Check all injector plugs. have u personally filled the tank with fresh fuel recently? Thats my next guess is bad fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I would guess compression is fine too, but if im pulling plugs to see if they look bad, might as well check compression while I am there. Cheap and easy to do.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 easy way to check coils is to switch them around and see if the dead cyl follows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 compression is probably fine. Could have a bad coil. Check all injector plugs. have u personally filled the tank with fresh fuel recently? Thats my next guess is bad fuel.Filled the tank up last friday. Had around 30 miles on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I was thinking that. I gotta go buy a compression tester kit thing. I've never had to do that.You can probably use one for free from a local parts store with a deposit. No need in buying one just for troubleshooting this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I am going to go with it burning antifreeze because there's a head/gasket issue if it really is just spewing white smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 What does the smoke smell like other than gas? Burning coolant has a pretty distinct aroma. How do you know one cyl isn't firing? Check the pipes for heat? If you can confirm a dead cyl, swap the plug wire from its mate, 1 to 4 or 2 to 3. If the problem follows the plug wire its a bad coil, if it doesn't I would check the injector. Aside from that you may have an issue with rings or maybe a bent valve, only a compression and leak down test will confirm that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I am going to go with it burning antifreeze because there's a head/gasket issue if it really is just spewing white smoke.That was my original thoughts. Antifreeze burning is gonna smell sweet. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 You can probably use one for free from a local parts store with a deposit. No need in buying one just for troubleshooting this. I will check into this when I go and try and find one.Does it have a power commander? If so' date=' remove it and see how it runs.[/quote'] No power commander. Just a slipon with the stock ecuWhat does the smoke smell like other than gas? Burning coolant has a pretty distinct aroma. How do you know one cyl isn't firing? Check the pipes for heat? If you can confirm a dead cyl, swap the plug wire from its mate, 1 to 4 or 2 to 3. If the problem follows the plug wire its a bad coil, if it doesn't I would check the injector. Aside from that you may have an issue with rings or maybe a bent valve, only a compression and leak down test will confirm that. The exhaust smells like unburnt fuel. It doesn't really smell sweet or anything like that. More straight burning. I can tell it's missing a cylinder because of the sound it's making. I had it happen on my old cbr, and it sounds just like that. I'm not sure what cylinder is actually causing the problem, but I'm going to pull the plugs tomorrow and try and do a compression test while I'm at it. I'm also going to check the ignition coils like the PREZ said. seems like this is all stuff that I can do at once to try and narrow stuff down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Just feel the pipes if you can get it to run for a minute. It will be pretty obvious which one isn't firing. , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 spray windex or water on pipes. you will be able to see which ones are cold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridein Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 That not white smoke,You can see blue....Blown head gasket or hole in one of the pistons,,,,,,He probaly over reved it???????.New room mate??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 I have used and abused these motors. Ran them well over 240 deg and done some crazy downshifts on accident 5th-2nd. I would be shocked if its actually injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 updates? I hate gsxr mysteries lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Yeah. I just went and bought a compression tester tonight.Took out the plugs, all of them had a little bit of oil on the tips, but the first and last plugs (looking at them from left to right while standing in from of the bike) had more oil than the others.So I compression tested the first cylinder (far left while standing in front of the bike) and it read 165psi. Not bad, condering it was a cold test.Then as I'm unscrewing the hose, the adapter stayed in my spark plug hole, while the hose came out. So I'm kind of stuck trying to figure out how to get that out now, but either way, the compression it that one cylinder wasn't too bad. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Did you let Craig touch that bike at any time previously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 If 1 & 4 have dirty plugs I would guess that coil is cooked...if they share one. Are you sure its oil? Soot and gas mixed looks a lot like oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 engine failure don't happen with the engine off and sitting over night. lolyou got something else going on besides the motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Did you let Craig touch that bike at any time previously?HaIf 1 & 4 have dirty plugs I would guess that coil is cooked...if they share one. Are you sure its oil? Soot and gas mixed looks a lot like oil. I mean, I'm pretty sure. Either way, somthing is causing it to foul right? They were covered enough that it was coming off on my fingers when I touched the threads.engine failure don't happen with the engine off and sitting over night. lolyou got something else going on besides the motor.That sounds ominous.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Ok. Got the adapter out. Retested all of the cylinders.This was on a cold start. From left to right while standing infront of the bike.164, 155, 155, 148.What do you think?I'm going to put the spark plugs and stuff back in tomorrow and see if it will run. It's it's a stator or regulator or something... how do I test that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 if u want call me. 513-321-2087 anytime after 10am. Its brandon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDBGoalie Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Ok. Got the adapter out. Retested all of the cylinders.This was on a cold start. From left to right while standing infront of the bike.164, 155, 155, 148.What do you think?I'm going to put the spark plugs and stuff back in tomorrow and see if it will run. It's it's a stator or regulator or something... how do I test that?Compression within 10% of each other is good.Smell the plugs to make sure it is actually oil. Sounds a lot like carbon soaked fuel. Hence the ignition problem everyone is pointing to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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