motociclista Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 It seems to me that a modern, fuel-injected, liquid-cooled 750cc inline four making 90+ horsepower and tuned for a broad torque curve would make a good Goldilocks bike: Not too much, not too little, just right. I'm not talking about sportbikes for the track right now, but a bike for the street, for both urban use and rapid inter-city transit. I can remember when nearly all manufacturers built a 750, and now almost nobody does. The post below from my blog explains my thinking. Yesterday, as the overly moneyed and under IQed owner of a Range Rover futilely tried to out-accelerate my 650cc Kawasaki Versys from a stoplight, no doubt so he could jump in front of me before the road dropped from four lanes to two a quarter of a mile ahead, and then hold me up for the next ten miles of curves, a question occurred to me: Whatever happened to 750cc streetbikes?Of course it was purely a theoretical mental exercise. Even without using the upper half of the rev range, my Versys easily stayed ahead of the Range Rover, which costs about 15 times as much, so it’s not like I needed a 750cc four-cylinder engine under me to keep from staring at the ass end of an overpriced SUV for ten miles. (And I was right: at the first curve, the wallowing behemoth slipped to a dot in my mirrors, proving that he would have held me up if I’d let him pass me.)Apart from that old truism (How much power do you need? Just a little more than you have.), no, I don’t need an extra 100cc and two cylinders beyond what my Versys, my everyday ride, offers. But if you asked me to describe the perfect motorcycle to meet my ordinary transportation and travel needs, I’d probably describe a thoroughly street-oriented 750cc four-cylinder motorcycle.Read the rest of Whatever happened to 750s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf1000ride Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I like my 1000cc light weight air cooled twin. No need for a 750cc machine in my life. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 As far as inline 4's go, 600cc is a boatload of power. Never felt the need for more than what they offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 It depends on how you ride. For me, it's plenty and then some. I tell people I have a 250, with 500 on reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) Slightly different thoughts. Under 10lbs road weight per each 1 ft/lb torque is enjoyable.That would be bike wet weight plus rider weight.edit: So yes, a light weight high compression 750cc tuned for torque will do this.Or a light weight low compression 900-1000cc. Edited December 10, 2012 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jst2fst Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I like my 600 plenty of power I plan on getting a bigger bike soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 800 is more perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschaf Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 250cc is fine for commuting & urban. 1000cc is required for the backroads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Z. Heimer Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 250cc is fine for commuting & urban. 1000cc is required for the backroads.Crap--Now you tell me. I've only 996cc:mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motociclista Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 As far as inline 4's go, 600cc is a boatload of power. Never felt the need for more than what they offered.True, and my Daytona 675 is more than I need for track work. But the 750cc streetbike I'm describing wouldn't be more powerful than a 600cc sportbike. Peak power would probably be a little less. But it would be tuned for a flatter torque curve, for street use, so there would be no need to rev to five-digit rpms.Maybe 600s are the new 750s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 yeah.. i always had so many issues on the back roads with my puny little 600cc r6... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motociclista Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) Yeah, 30 years of riding backroads and I've never owned anything bigger than 885cc, so I didn't know a liter bike was "required." My bad. Edited December 9, 2012 by motociclista Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 You can never have enough power. Power is the most fun part of living...more, more, more, then laughing when it blows your mind how quick it accelerates.From cars to bikes...sky's the limit! Oh and any bike makes a good street bike for back roads as long as it isn't a cruiser. But yeah....MORE POWER! :woo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf1000ride Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Slightly different thoughts. Under 10lbs road weight per each 1 ft/lb torque is enjoyable.That would be bike wet weight plus rider weight.I really need to weigh my bike, I bet it can do those numbers. Its got 68ftlbs for a claimed 400lb bike. I've removed a bunch of weight so real world may be back down to that claimed number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHill Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I've been happy with my 600's, never felt the need for anything more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 636/Thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 My bike is 1100cc' date=' bitches. Your puny 1000cc bike is for girls.[/quote']Seriously, anything under 1078cc is just wasting your time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Copeland Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I've got 1125 cc 's of beast !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I really need to weigh my bike, I bet it can do those numbers. Its got 68ftlbs for a claimed 400lb bike. I've removed a bunch of weight so real world may be back down to that claimed number.Yes, that will meet that ratio of torque to weight easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cOoTeR Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 With the power the modern 600's put out the way most people see it is if you need more power why settle for less? I know if they put a 1400 in a lighter sportbike I'd probably buy it just because. I know I don't need all the power but I want it. It's a blast to roll into all that power. I love running up the mountain roads here in first and second gear at about 75-80mph getting on the gas and feeling it pull away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Hmmmmm......only a 600, you are so inadequate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 This is a Yamaha Fazer8 (not yet available in the US). It's an FZ8 naked bike with a bikini faring. The lower faring was ordered from France and added to this bikeby it's owner in Australia.This is a bike that is high on my want list.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubguy85 Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Daytona 675 / Thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 that post is false. they have an fz8 at competition accessories in Springfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello dude Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 If Honda had a CBR750RR, I would have to have one in my garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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