Bloomberg gun summit

[Scruit]

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/cvplive/cvpstream1&hpt=hp_t2#/video/cvplive/cvpstream1

They just showed a study that showed mental health records in NICS coincides with a significant drop of gun crimes committed by people adjudicated mental defective.

Now they are talking about gun use in domestic violence, saying that the majority of domestic violence murders are gun murders. Dunno where the presenter is going yet.

[Scruit]

"Permanent Domestic Violence restraining orders are associated with a significant reduction on gun homicides and total homicides. We noted there was no 'substitution' effect."

"Domestic violence misdemeanors are not statistically associated with homicides."

"Domestic Violence restraining orders saves lives if the guns are removed"

Recommendations from this lady:

- Expand restraining orders and make then easier and quicker to obtain

- Automatic data to NICS

- NICS checks on private purchases

- Register all guns to allow active confiscation when a person becomes disqualified due to restraining orders, convictions etc.

- Expand domestic violence disqualifiers to include associated crimes like "stalking".

[Scruit]

Now they are talking about adding new disqualification types for gun owners (Mental cases, felons etc)

They are saying 60% of gun crimes in their study were committed by people not disqualified from owning guns under current rules.

- Raise handgun ownership age from 18 to 21, or higher (30!)

- Include juvenile offenses as disqualifiers

Edited January 14, 2013 by Scruit

[Casper]

Recommendations from this lady:

- Expand restraining orders and make then easier and quicker to obtain

- Automatic data to NICS

- NICS checks on private purchases

- Register all guns to allow active confiscation when a person becomes disqualified due to restraining orders, convictions etc.

- Expand domestic violence disqualifiers to include associated crimes like "stalking".

I'm okay with all of those except the registration. I'm not okay with a gun registration in any form.

[AWW$HEEET]

what if you date/marry some nutso bitch who files a restraining order, just because she can?

[Scruit]

This next guy is "One of the most creating thinkers in gun violence reduction." This should be interesting.

[Scruit]

what if you date/marry some nutso bitch who files a restraining order, just because she can?

The judge has to approve it, and therefore must see good grounds.

[Scruit]

A teenager with at least one prior conviction is 200 times more likely to be commit a disqualification crime at some point in the future than a 50+ person with no criminal history.

Only 0.3% of handgun purchasers who started with a clean history go on to commit a violent crime. They didn't say what the non-gun-owner rate is.

He wants to add violent misdemeanors as a disqualifier in NICS. He also wants to end/not introduce the practice of allowing CHL holders to skip NICS checks (17 states do this?) because law abiding gun owners become disqualified at a high enough rate within 5 years that many disqualified persons can still buy guns under the current system. He instead favors NICS checks at the time of purchase for everyone.