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Tonik: Maybe you misunderstood my initial post. I'm not advocating against CCL issuance, nor against freedom of individual gun ownership. I'm merely stating that--as someone who considers himself pretty much a rank beginner as far as handgun experience--my one year of ownership and minimal classroom training and range practice made me look like the Sundance Kid as far as skills were concerned. That should concern even the most ardent gun rights advocate.

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Dude, you are one seriously excitable fella. I'm not "making shit up"....merely voicing concern based on my experience. Mea culpa. Or as Emily Litella would say, "Oh, that's very different....nevermind."

You keep bringing up completely ridiculous examples. Quit being an asshat. Is it so wrong to want people that are carrying a lethal weapon to know what the hell they are doing with it in public?

I haven't taken the range exam yet, but it was described last night as having to put a minimum of 8-9 of 10 rounds into a full size torso target at distances of 3 and 5 yds, so a total of 20 rounds toward the target. Even a rank newb should be able pass that with their eyes closed. I realize that's supposed to mimic the most likely threat scenario in an encounter, but really... Not gonna go anywhere near the abortion/religion button on a motorcycle forum, but my feeling is that CCL will become somewhat akin to the problem we all face as road users: that the state requires such minimal level of training and competency as far skills/knowledge/awareness for issuance of a driver's license, the "stupid quotient" behind the wheel of an automobile is increasing at an almost exponential rate. Apply that same scenario to CCL and you can see where I'm going. I sincerely hope I'm wrong!!! We can only hope this is the case.

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I think instructors are supposed to fail students they feel don't meet the requirements.

When did you buy a gun!?

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Do you have a metal plate in your head? Do your cavity fillings pick up radio stations?

^This! The bottom line is without law enforcement the laws don't exist. Its the reality of being arrested, prosecuted and spending the rest of your life in prison that keeps most civilized. Yes there are the few that think they can break laws and never get caught, but again, that is why we have law enforcement, to bring those to justice. Do I agree with how the whole process works, NO, I think there is much room for improvement. It starts with better training and strong leadership not swayed by politics. I think most will agree that having law enforcement is better than every man for themselves chaos that would ensue without them.

How many people have these people killed or wounded since then?

Freedom of Religion, another constitutionally protected right that does not have mandatory training classes that has killed boatloads of people. The Catholics and their Crusades's, the Muslims and their Jihad or whatever they are doing? Religion has killed millions yet we don't require any training for that. And I am still waiting for someone give me some statistics where licensed CHL holders have committed a statistically significant number of accidental murders. That's the problem with the anti-2nd amendment nuts. They spout out all this bullshit about unsafe gun owners but when you look at the numbers you find out they are full of shit. And that the gun show loophole accounts for pretty much none of the illegally used guns on the streets, further filling them up with shit. And that the fucking homicide rate in the US is currently at a damn near ONE HUNDRED YEAR LOW.