I agree with this. I'm not sure if these figures are right or not. But it seems the cuts always seem to come at the bottom where they really aren't needed. I guess that's my whole beef with this. It's an upside down pyramid. That being said, I think a compromise has to be reached at some point. I would rather stay stagnant on pay and have old Fred, or newb Johnny keep their job, rather than me get a raise. I have seen both incentive based pay, and flat across the board. Both in good economy and bad. One year it worked, the next it didn't.