chevysoldier

If you go around telling people that the weapon and ammo don't need to be separated, many will transport their weapon next to a loaded mag.

Personally, I think it's better to be conservative with complying with gun laws than it is to cause and scene and end up paying pay court fees, even if the police are wrong. If I were a cop, I'd prefer that some stranger that I pulled over without a CCW didn't have a gun that he could load when I'm back in the cruiser. So I play the golden rule.

Then you should have said something like "you cannot legally transport with a loaded magazine/speed loader but, IMO, keeping them separated in the car is a good idea." You said it to be law, and it's not. This is one reason so many people get mislead and confused because one person says something then it snowballs.

I have no problem with you wanting to play it safe. That's fine and dandy but don't tell someone that's how something is when it's not.

Chevy, I'll make sure I read each of your 13000 posts before replying in the future.

My bad.

I was showing you that I have said it before, that I didn't miss any caveats.

Legally, a gun with no ammunition in it is loaded if there is a loaded magazine.

Your advice misses that very important caveat.

I will even show you a couple of my old posts on this subject.

http://www.ohioriders.net/showpost.php?p=617680&postcount=125

http://www.ohioriders.net/showpost.php?p=755502&postcount=33

Legally, a gun with no ammunition in it is loaded if there is a loaded magazine.

Your advice misses that very important caveat.

Yes, I know that. That was already brought up in previous posts which is why I didn't say that. My advice was what you said was incorrect.

Again, where does is say the ammunition must be separated? It doesn't. It says no ammunition can be in magazines or speedloaders anywhere inside the vehicle in which a gun they will fit is located. A box of rounds sitting in the same bag as a handgun is not illegal.

This actually went national on P1.

http://www.policeone.com/patrol-issues/articles/4912859-Video-Teen-with-Airsoft-gun-safely-disarmed/

i posted a response back in july 09 to this thread.... i would like to say i can't believe im staring at it yet again... i mean who can forget. ive been off the board for a while so this is quite hilarious to see on the "new posts" list STILL

My point, lightbulb, is you said

The weapon can't be loaded and ammo must be stored in a different part of the vehicle than the weapon.

e.g. gun in passenger area, ammo in trunk.

You are passing along incorrect information. Had you said, it may not be law but a good idea to separate ammunition from the firearm, I would have no issue.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/1547.69

Cops aren't lawyers. Most cops have the understanding, correct or not, that they should be separate. It's easy enough to do.

Yes I've read the law. Where does it say to separate?

The one confusing part of certain "no guns allowed" signs it the small print at the bottom reads

" Unless otherwise authorized by law...."

Does having a CHL "authorize" you to carry?

(Disclaimer I am not a laywer), just curious, but i would interpret the CHL process of actually obtaining your license, makes you "authorized by law"?

General consensus is the chl does not make you authorized. Can't recall if there is info on that or what...I'll have to dig.

I try not to carry ammo an gun in the same range bag. I will keep the case out on the seat and put thebag in the floorboard.

I'm not saying you can't, but that isn't a stipulation in the law. Couldn't hurt you to do that.

The weapon can't be loaded and ammo must be stored in a different part of the vehicle than the weapon.

e.g. gun in passenger area, ammo in trunk.

No there is no law that says ammo and gun must be separated.

One guy openly carrying in a McDonald's is unlikely to change anything about it not being commonplace for people to openly carry weapons casually in Cleveland.

If I was at McDonald's and there was an average joe with an openly carried gun, I'd be on high alert. And for good reason - people just don't do that.

And how many times have you open carried or run into those open carrying? You think a bad guy is going to announce he has a gun? I've open carried and have changed the mind of quite a few and I was by myself.

Legal? Yes

Bad idea? Yes

Don't be that guy.

Bad idea? Why is it a bad idea?

I have heard that open carry is legal but am hesitant to try it. Seem to remember hearing that depending on the situation, you could be arrested for "inciting panic". Anyone know for sure?

No you can't be. Inducing panic means you are doing something illegal. The simple act of open carrying is not inducing panic. Places like Cleveland have tried but the supreme court has been putting Cleveland back in its place

There are so many things wrong I don't know where to start...poor guy.

Wtf.when it rains it pies I guess.

I like pumpkin pie.

I've watched a couple episodes. Some of these people spend 10+ hours a day to prepping which I think is extreme but there are some good ideas. Like the mineral oil on eggs to make them last a long time. Did not know that.

I love this thread.. .

Wow....interesting to say the least. I know they track purchases just mot to quite this extent.

Saving boobies, babies, and our community.

I thought this was an Obama thread....

:funnyshit:

Good luck Ziggy. I have heard, like others, how bad it can be as an adult. Thankfully I had CP as a kid. Never had much more than a cold since then, other than appendicitis in 2006 which was kinda bad. Good luck and keep us updated!

if you buy me groceries first, I don't have any food in my house

I'll send you some $$ thru paypal, labeled "for lottery", then fed ex me the sammich when you make it.

Hmm, shaping up to be pretty good...

See thats why the xd lines are best easy to know what they are LOL!

Umm, no.

Eh maybe, we'll see. Like I said, I'm no enginerd or anything.

So, excuse the ignorance, but is it a DSLR? And while we are at it, what does DSLR mean?

My kid wants one, but I know very little about them.

No it's not and DSLR is Digital Single Lens Reflex.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_single-lens_reflex_camera

Digital single-lens reflex cameras (digital SLR or DSLR) are digital cameras that use a mechanical mirror system and pentaprism to direct light from the lens to an optical viewfinder on the back of the camera.

Edit: CRB beat me...