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20 minutes ago, RymerC said:

Was it the mid ohio school or whatever in 2009? Or was it still one of the other parties like STT or something doing the rentals. Last few years I've been there it's only been with mid ohio school, maybe they have more requirements than whatever old org I used to track with there.

 

It’s been the MidOhio school since like 2010. STT has the same requirements. 

On 4/14/2021 at 10:16 PM, RymerC said:

When they started requiring intermediate to safety wire they crossed the line into "really guys?"

Loads of videos at other tracks of people with mirrors that aren't even taped up!, no safety wired anything, stock coolant,  and somehow the world doesn't end.

I'm sure they wouldn't have upped the requirements if they didn't have a problem at some point, but if other tracks are doing it why can't they?

Uh that’s not new. I’ve been riding midohio since 2009 and coaching there since 2015. Wiring the drain plug, filler cap and filter has always been in place and for good reason. Honestly the requirements are right in line with all of the other big players in the track day industry. 

6 hours ago, RymerC said:

And stop requiring excessive tech? And stop raising their prices? And stop cancelling events? And have events on weekends? Is whoever owns it ready to sell yet?

RIP Mid Ohio.

Curious, what do you consider excessive tech?

11 minutes ago, Jester_ said:

Again some of it is preference but the GSXR isn't as brutal on power delivery, I think it helps you control wheel speed and then there is that top end power. My bike is an SS build, has ceramic transmission bearings and tuned for MR12 or pump but on pump it is an absolute missile when you get into the power band. 

I think at the club level they are really starting to figure these bikes out, it just took a couple years. Even look at the grid at road atlanta a couple weeks ago, mostly GSXRs or ZX10s in the expert field. 2 years ago it was all R1s.

The brutal power delivery you mention was probably your throttle map. Did you modify it or just use someone like superbike unlimited’s flash? My bike isn’t brutal at all but Mark and I spent a good amount of time getting this right. 

18 minutes ago, Jester_ said:

To be honest I like pretty much everything about it more than the R1 except for the electronics. I like how stable it is in the corners, I like the power delivery more, it feels like it has way more mechanical grip... very confidence inspiring but some of those things are personal preference. The stock GSXR electronics suck, this has the Yosh EM-Pro "like the YEC ECU for yamaha". This is a KWS built bike, has lots of little upgrades on it but the EM-Pro has the KWS flash on it for TC\Wheelie control. It is nowhere close to the R1 in terms of wheelie control but I have heard the TC is close to the R1 I just didnt quite push the bike hard enough to get a feel for it yet. The first day on the bike just cruising around at PIRC on Road Atlanta gearing and I was only a half second off the times on the R1 and I still have to re spring the bike as well as make a few other adjustments to it. I cant wait to get used to this thing though, I really think this is a better platform for me. 

That’s interesting about the power delivery. I love the way the crossplane comes out of corners. I need to see if Mark J will let me ride his sometime.

10 hours ago, Jester_ said:

Spent last weekend getting used to the new bike. Overall a much better platform me. 

 Nice. What do you like better about it? I think I’m switching it up next year also. Probably gonna keep the R1 as well

23 hours ago, TMC Customs said:

Looking at the WERA link, it appears they do not separate 600 and 1000 bikes during the race. Maybe I am reading it incorrectly. 

For the most part you are reading it incorrectly. There may be a few races where 600's and 1000's are gridded together. Keep in mind they are still in separate classes so you will have a winner for the 600 class and one for the open (1000) class. Senior superbike being one that i can think of off the top of my head. This class is for racers over 40 so for the most part everyone rides responsibly. You can race a 600 in the 1000 class if you want to and some people do that. A classes are for 1000's and C classes are for 600's. I've never seen those classes on the grid together.

4 minutes ago, TMC Customs said:

I am a frequent rider and would rather use my ability to sign up late than lose my cert because of rain. Also, the website states “ All sessions will run rain or shine” I don’t see anything about cancelling because of low enrollment and I didn’t see it when I purchased the certs. 

Have to call the office on that. I just coach.

16 minutes ago, what said:

Yeah signing up prior to knowing the weather is a good way to waste your cert/money. They are going to need to invest in fixing the problems with the track before this mindset changes for a lot of people.

I get it but it never stopped me from signing up at other tracks and I would never ride in the rain. Most riders don't ride in the rain at tracks that have wet grip anyways.

That all ended for me this year when I was given a set of true rains at Nelson to ride on. It was absolutely amazing.

11 minutes ago, jacobhawkins said:

If there was some sort of communication regarding where registrations stood and what was needed to make the day happen that might be helpful to folks who normally walk up because of weather concerns.  I know that's not your call, but I get a bunch of emails from MidOhio about stuff that doesn't really matter and this would.

I agree. I would like to know this info as it helps me plan as well.  I’ll mention it. 

13 hours ago, TMC Customs said:

Looks like you had a good day for it. I was planning on Sunday and Tuesday but they cancelled both. 

Yes yesterday was perfect. Track was awesome.

FYI, With everything going on the track is requiring a certain number of preregisters or else they are canceling. So if you’re considering sign up ahead of time. Sucks for all of us but nothing we can do about it.

I’ll be there

11 hours ago, F4iguy said:

It’s technically not a twilight. It’s an afternoon/evening (1/2 day). It cost $10 more than the twilight. Ha ha

It will be closer to a full day that half a day. 5-6 sessions would be my guess. I’ll know more tomorrow.

1 hour ago, Limitedslip7 said:

Where's the best place to get a 180/55R17 Superbike slick SC2? I used to get my tires from STG but they switched to Michelin and stopped carrying Pirelli race tires

Mark Junge at MidOhio is selling Pirelli's.

Like others have pointed out, looks like you locked the rear up momentarily downshifting which upset the bike and caused you to go off track. You pulled the clutch in and let the revs drop down to like 4-5k then let it out too fast. Try not to let the bike free roll like that, get your downshift done quickly blipping the throttle to reduce shock to the chassis. 

12 hours ago, what said:

If I can get comparable grip to the Q4s out of an SC3 rear I'd be happy.

I don't think that will be a problem. I think the SC3 will last longer too. Only drawback is the SC3 is still a true race tire so you'll need warmers whereas the Q4 and also the Pirelli TD tires can go without warmers.

I'm thinking about trying out the Pirelli TD tire on my stock wheels for coaching so i don't have to worry about warmers. Just hop on and go. Mark J ran 1:31.5 at MidO on them.  

3 hours ago, what said:

The 3 is supposed to be just as sticky as the 2 but with better wear. I imagine the 3 requires a bit higher track/air temps though since it's a slightly harder compound. 

The 3 isn’t as sticky as the 2 and doesn’t have the edge grip of the 1or2. It’s not a bad tire. I’d do track days on it for sure but no way I would race on it it. The rear reminds me of Michelin evo’s. The front people love. Mark Junge actually races with the 3 and it’s his preferred front. He’s trying to convert me over to it but I prefer the 1 on the front. Pirellis and temps are kinda the opposite of what most people think. The softer tires work better in high temps

I’ll take the gear bag. Where are you located?

53 minutes ago, what said:

You've just opened yourself up to untold harassment. UNTOLD. 

 

I'll be putting around on my grey grom with 802 number plates on it. 

LOL. 

I’m racing The A classes again this year. Garage 20 bike no 827

3 hours ago, what said:

heard rumors of a repave in the next year or 2

1 hour ago, ludwb675 said:

That's been the rumor for the last 3 years....

1 hour ago, MidgetTodd said:

At least last 3 years. Probably closer to 5/6 years. Right after the last round of superbike. 

All true statements but I’ve heard the same from someone that would be in the know. Never heard this from him previously. 🤞 

13 minutes ago, MidgetTodd said:

You’re not wrong on your thinking but you’re missing some things. 

The teen driving is generally scheduled concurrently with another event so there’s two incomes and they do not have medical  on for teen school so one less expense. 

And on the car club days, no they don’t pay 20k that’s not where my almost double comes from. I’m speaking bottom line. 

When a club rents the facility they carry their own insurance and they pay medical so Mid O is not paying those two bills. Basically the same deal when WERA runs, they bring their own insurance instead of Mid O and they pay medical. That’s why 16yo can race at VMD but not at PTR because it’s not Mid O insurance coverage. 

All of us on medical are not on Mid O payroll, we’re contracted. Mid O pays us on major events and track sponsored events such as PTR. 

The clubs pay the medical coverage bill on those days. Same as when OSP rents the facility for training. They do it concurrently with another event and pay part of medical. 

Take Medical and Insurance out of the days expenses and that is a sizable bump to the net income for the day. 

 

Right i think it’s like 10k to rent the track. I’d bet there are numerous days where PTR nets more than 10k. Sold out days are over 100 riders. I’ve heard numbers for medical but not insurance but either way I stand by my statements.  

You gonna be up there much this year?

59 minutes ago, MidgetTodd said:

That’s the lowest paying event they hold. 

I didn’t say they don’t make money. Said they make little. They cut two of our staffing numbers in medical because of it. 

Car events bring almost double that. 

And 10K is not much when account for what it costs to run the facility for the day. That’s why they rely on volunteer coaches 

So teen driving school makes more than 10K per event? 50 riders is a lighter day so this is on the low end. PTR is part of the school. It's the highest revenue generator for the school from what I'm told. The school as a whole has to be peanuts compared to the major events the track holds but that goes for any track in the country. I don't think Car track days bring in more money for MidO since the track is rented out. I've heard numbers thrown out in the past and it's not 20K.

Do you know of any org that is paying their coaches cash for track days? Let me know I'll go coach for them.

5 hours ago, MidgetTodd said:

They make very little on PTR 

Not really true from what I’ve heard.

50 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said:

For a car photoshoot..... like really?

Honda commercial is what I heard.