Let me preface my post, thei thread is great and I agree we need to do a better job educating cagers. ************************* Couple statistical notes, first and foremost the statistics deal with colissions, they aren't measuring if/how much less likely you are to be in a collision (agility, speed). Secondly, I think a few factors are incorrectly being measured as causation instead of correlation. Helmet is a grey area, medical insurance is a big one. For either, one could ascertain that people with health insurance are safer and more thought conscious. It's also likely since the bulk of bikes insured in Ohio are cruisers, male and over 25 any statistics that are used should be weighted and valued keeping the base demographics in mind. If males are 10% more likely to die in ALL vehicular incidents then for purposes of showing motorcycle statistics you should reduce or disclaim that base statistic. End rant