MidgetTodd

Maybe we move it to a place thats open... say BW3 Newark.

Does the standing chair convert to a regular chair as well or is it standing only?

Clutch cable?? Whats that,bikes still have those?

I dont even use the 2ct, just straight powers on mine.

When you can take 3 years off work.... Then we'll talk

That's her having pity on you, not pimp hand.

I headed out to run into to you. It looked clear I got two miles up 586 and ran into a monsoon. Turned around, returned home, clothes in dryer, Mt.Dew and cookies in hand. I fail miserably, I'm sorry.

He's got a massive pimp hand. He had her at home putting a new roof on the house while we played with bikes and went to ROC! True story.

Starting threads now too, you really are comming out of your shell!

Oh and agreed on what the bikerchick said^^^^

And yes, in the US, money is often a factor when it comes to health care decisions.

No, its ALWAYS THE factor.

No wedding pix will be posted. Nobody here has ever seen me with hair, no one ever will

That mullet rocked bud, show it off.

I could not deal with this situation half as good as you have.

That's nothing short of asinine. From my previous life, I remember ems on scene makes judgment on whether crew flies, or stays on standby. I don't know you well, but what I do know, I would trust your assessment of an injuries severity over an insurance company.

Agreed, not everyone is fully insured. It sucks.

The problem is response time not assesment. In the rural areas they are dispatching both at the same time because of how long it takes the squad to get there. I'll use Brents case again because it was my dept that responded. It's a 20-25 minute response for us to where she was at then a 2min assesment then a call to dispatch to send a chopper then a 15 min eta for them. So if done that way you're getting real close to an hour before the vic is airbourne thats why they are starting to send both at the same time and letting us cancel the bird if not needed. Unfortunately if they start the engine on the chopper you're going to get a bill, a lesser bill than if it made it to the scene and landed but still a bill.

So the ins will not pay because it was not needed. Really not much to do with assessment.

Again thats just rural though the big cities are still waiting for an on scene call.

CbrBrent on here is a prime example of this, he just got done paying the Life flight charges. His wife was learning to ride and got run off the road by a car. A bystander called it in as a motorcycle crash and being a rural community the chopper was sent too. It was not needed but was sent and he had to pay and pay dearly.

EMS is needed many times on a bike crash, just think before you call to make sure it is the best option and if so plan your call... say its an ATV accident not motorcycle and be as descriptive as you can on injury and what parts of the body were hit so maybe they will hold off on chopper dispatch till EMT's are on scene for assesment.

Not everyone has full coverage ins and alot of ins companies will deny the life flight charges if they dont deem the injuries to be life threatening then its on you.

It is not cheap at all, that change your veiw a lil now?

I do share your view as well Nick but I'm not gonna be real vocal about it. I don't think I would do it and on that same note I know for a fact I could not have handled this situation nearly as well as he has. I'll just trust that he has fully thought this thru and will offer help in anyway I can, but it is definitely a risky situation.

Most cant afford the ambulance ride either. And another thing worth noting here, allot of rural counties are starting to dispatch the chopper now with the ambulance on motorcycle accidents due to response times. Life flight is a $5000 bill once that starter button is pushed and just goes up from there.

Now since I'm on a Fire and EMS crew I shouldn't tell you don't call, I know the risks. But use a little common sense and put pride on the back burner, if you can get to the hospital in close to the same time then take yourself depending on injuries of course. Other option to avoid the ticket.... don't call it in as a motorcycle accident. Call as an ATV accident central dispatch does not dispatch the police for an accident they assume to be off road and the EMS response will be the same. Once on scene EMT's will obviously know it wasn't an ATV accident but we wont call the cops its not our job and we don't care, we'll just treat and transport. Our paperwork will reflect a motorcycle accident but thats internal and the police dont see that.

My guess is if some can keep up, they are running a Shinko too.

I just blew Mt Dew out my nose, thanks.

If mine jambs I grab another one.

It's all in the interpretation.

Radar is showing a good bit of rain John

I'm watching the rain right now and deciding how to miss the rain, make the rides and make lunch with the inlaws.

He'll be comming the other way, you followed it backwards. I thought they had that opened up now though??

Technically its only illegal if you caught.

I may do just that, theres a cookout with the inlaws planned I'll get the details and see what I can pull off.......... or get away with.