MeefZah

I regularly ride over roadkill, not because I'm a sadistic SOB (although I am) but because it's good training for encountering a live version of whatever it is trundling accross the road. You'd be surprised how insignificant even a larger animal can be... most feel like you hit a sack of water.

Not abruptly swerving or braking super aggressively, and standing slightly to absorb the impact while lifting the bars up and accelerating slightly, are useful skills.

I will say that raccoons are tricky bastards, they have a very hard and angular skull, if you hit that wrong it could spit you off in a different direction than intended.

I hit a deer in WV a month ago, killed it and killed it's fetus. $5600 damage, but didn't go down. Continued on my trip with bent forks, bent bars, and a bunch of superficial damage.

The bike actually doesn't look too bad in the below picture.

I don't know of any Ohio agency that uses unmarked cars that aren't detective, special purpose patrol (gang, surveillance, etc), or training cars. Unmarked cars in Ohio for general patrol are essentially verboten, and there are further restrictions on non uniformed officers being able to testify in traffic proceedings.

Even in the Cleveland area, where every little town has a department and they all want a piece of the interstate pie, the cars are marked. Granted, they have small lettering and a tiny little teardrop style light on the roof to be as inconspicuous as legally possible, but they are in compliance with the ORC as it specifies that marked "cars must be equipped with a permanently mounted roof light and siren".

I have a very hard time believing that any unmarked is out there doing traffic stops. Criminal stops, maybe; assisting a stranded motorist, perhaps; but even then that's a big safety risk.

Bank larceny, 18 USC Section 2113(b). It's a 10 year federal felony.

Heh, interesting, did not know that. I'd look it up but I suppose I will defer to your knowledge on the subject.

Would a federal prosecutor take that case for $1000?

What bike could do 186 in 1978?

I find the unmarked car suspect what with them not being used in Ohio for traffic since it's illegal and all.

Fucking Morrow-Tuckey!

Wassup Thomas!!!

Nice to see ya on here.

Mark

you could have been charged with federal charges.

What would those be?

$157.50 to be exact, for my 125 in a 55.

Nice. My 119 / 55 was $159 and 4 points in Morrow County back in 2005.

I was like, fuck it, it's almost worth it.

Matt, nice to meet you and your girl today. Sorry I didn't catch your screen name.

Dude, you were tearing up that gravel on your motard tires, I was impressed!

Shoot me a PM if you want to exchange contact info for future rides since we're not that awfully far apart.

-Mark

Most employers won't hesitate to fuck you, the least you can do is know that and play by the same set of rules - fucking them if and when necessary. Get a better job, take it.

I rode my 76 CB200T to the gulf coast last year, Hit deals gap on the way down and back.

I got the bike for free and rode it MAYBE 200 miles after i got it running before i left, so the saddlebags were full of about 100 pounds of tools and spare parts.

Wore out a brand new rear tire in 10 days, I figure i was way over the weight rating on the moped tires i put on it.

Awesome! You make most of these pogues look like... well... like pogues in comparison!

I ride to adjoining states on my 250 pretty regularly. Longest trip thus far was with 2 other guys also on 250s, 1150 miles over 4 days, and a lot of that was dirt and trails in the UP.

This past fall another guy and I did 3 days, about 700 miles through a bunch of Nat Park Roads in PA.

The longest day I've had on my 250 was 500 miles, only just barely left Ohio; crossed into WV near St Marys and played around a bit on dirt roads there but mostly two lane pavement in Ohio.

Most of my rides on the 250, come to think of it, are either like a mile on an errand in town, or a few hundred miles. Pretty much every organized ride I get in on requires 120 miles of round trip to get to the dirt, anyway, so those rides pretty much run at least 250-300 miles in a day.

So I guess... yes? I tour on it and take in state banging around type trips.

And let's not forget that the cops don't chase innocent people like that - we give cops a badge, a gun and a cruiser, demand they make split-second decisions in life and death situations, then site back for weeks and research & debate every single individual action. I give cops a lot of leeway in these situations, recognizing the dynamic nature of the circumstances, adrenaline, fear, responsibility and the fact it's happening in real time for them - I am quick to forgive honest mistakes. What I don't think we should tolerate is behavior that is in bad faith, before or after the event. If we believe the cop was only trying to end the pursuit and not trying to kill the guy then he should be forgiven for the bad judgement call under condition that the department all learn form that and adapt their policies to be better suited to the needs of that individual pursuits in the future.

People make mistakes at work - it happens, always will. We all expect to be forgiven our mistakes at work while scream out for the cop to be fired when they make a mistake. If we fired every cop who made a mistake we'd have no cops left.

Holy shit, an insightful response.

Which is why when one says hi to me and I smile back and say hi to him, inside I'm really saying I fucking hate you. Oops, did I just post that? That's it, I'm going to hell. Yes, I have a clean record, never been in trouble with law either. I just don't care for them; my right of my opinion.

Then why don't you grow a sack and when a cop says "hi" to you, tell them what you really think.

Takes a special kind of pussy to bitch up like you.

left lane parkers should lose their license. I drive a 9000lb truck and routinely am an asshole to left lane parkers. I WILL tailgate and if you make the decision to brake check me and total your car and cause lots of time and hassle for yourself while my truck barely gets a scratch that is a gamble I will take

I am that asshole driver and have no problem admitting to it and accept the consequences

Even more hardcore.

If they are within 12 feet they get the finger when they go by. If they get within 5 feet which several have, they get a phone call to the nearest state trooper office

Hardcore.

Thx meefzah, will definitely chart this if 16 looks horrible, we were looking at 16 all the way, then 421, then brp but 16 surface not ideal most places have u been on 16 down south, some say even better than gap with lots of twists and switch backs etc

WV 16? Or....?

From Youngstown I would find 800 and run it all the way to the river, cross on the Sistersville ferry, WV 18 down to US 33, US 33 all the way to the BRP, BRP all the way to the Smokies / Deals Gap.

You can make Roanke VA at the end of Day 1, and knock off the other 300 miles of the BRP on day 2.

With the exception of a small portion of US 33 this is all very nice, twisty, 2 lane; and also excepting US 33 is lightly trafficked.

Once down there, I concur: 441 through the Smokies, 28, Cherohala Skyway, US 19 into GA... hard to go wrong.

A group of us knocked out about 200 miles of dirt and gravel through Knox, Holmes, Coshocton, Tuscarawas, and Guernsey Counties... cold to start the day off but nice and warm to end it.

"Impeding the flow of traffic"

Really? You're going to go there? I bet your nightstick is the smallest in your deRpartment.

So you think stopping in the middle of a 4+ lane road with traffic behind you moving at 45+ mph' date=' for no clear reason, is appropriate and legal behavior?

Probably has a small dick too

My penis is ridiculously tiny, actually. Plus I have a gut which sort of overlaps it. Your girlfriend played hell getting to it, but she's a tenacious little skank.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4511.21

Unless traffic laws are way different in Vegas, This is the OHIO law. Bottom line is this would be a traffic violation to the trailing vehicle in motion that struck the vehicle in front in motion, slowing or stopped. Hell, I even showed the vid to a OSP Trooper. He said Police cruiser is at fault. BUT.... What Happens in Vegas....

If we are going strictly by the video and not accounting for any violations having occurred prior, it appears the captain is at fault for ACDA and the rider is at fault for impeding the flow of traffic. Primary cause of the crash can be argued, it's a chicken and egg scenario.

Do you stop people for open carrying just to see if you can find something wrong to jam them up?

Running a plate is different than making a stop, and conducting a traffic stop is different then stopping someone for open carry.

Thank you Captain Obvious. Are you related to this cop or something?

He's my brother, but I'm Patrolman Obvious.

Safe following distance is the distance required to stop and not hit the vehicle in front of you. It is not measured in feet, time or any other units

Distance is always measured in feet (or some other unit). By it's very definition it is not an intangible thing.

Negative. You only drive/follow within your abilities to remain safe. Period.

So a Crown Vic and a 600cc sport bike are traveling at 45 mph on the road, and the bike stops abruptly.

Will the Crown Vic, driven by a competent driver and in good mechanical condition, be able to stop as fast as the motorcycle; and stop fast enough to avoid hitting the motorcycle; at a safe following distance of 50 feet?

Investigation under way now...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/21479236/youtube-video-shows-metro-officer-rear-ending-motorcyclist

The article states, although no corroborating evidence is given, that the rider has a history of deliberately causing accidents.

If true, that might account for why he was filming a mundane ride from point A to point B through the city.

The comments would also seem to indicate, from people who claim to know him, that he is an aggressive, risk taking rider; and also note that his riding skills in traffic seem sub par. While none of that has anything to do with the conduct of the officer after the crash, it sure might contribute to the crash itself.

This removed the integrity of your post for me. The cop would intentionally follow closer than usual...and still not be at fault for a rear-end collision?

If in fact that's what he was doing, and how close he was, I would point out it's kind of hard to read a motorcycle plate from more than about 20 feet back, the letters being 1 inch tall and such.