Zach

roper

dope

well, see some of you people at bike night, I'm outta here!

it's not your opinion that I should get over it?

+1

I appreciate your opinion, but nah, I'll keep my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6DXLTBuRx8

If they don't rap, they don't get my cash. "Help is on the way!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLvqsk7t2HI

Could be.

Don't get me wrong, this forum isn't unsuccessful. This forum is expanding as a testament to the good things that are happening here. But of the 10 or so guys that came over at once, how many are still here? 2, 3? There are a lot of people in ohio that have great knowledge and experiences that won't bother to share with this place because some keyboard bullies like to talk smack. You attitude against the "less than desirable newbies" makes that very clear.

You don't think this place is different? I do. I wasn't here when this place was started but I have to imagine the original purpose was to gather like minded individuals and facilitate riding and interacting in real life.

No, not really. I was remarking at how immature people are when faced with an opposing viewpoint on an internet forum. I don't care about rep points. you said you didn't read my whole post, why should I care about your assessment of me?

but i didn't even say it was yota and wheezle's video from last saturday night...

dude, i've got a 24" monitor i typed that thesis entirely with my left hand and had youporn and word open side by side.

wooo hooo! the rep roller coaster! this shit's better than kings island! (note: i didn't say cedar point, no coaster could top cedar fucking point.)

The first being a lie to justify online words. The second being willing to say what you mean face to face. and 2 e-beers for you.

Please make sure to introduce yourself should we ever meet. this is just the interweb, no need for the hate. i'm not crying here.

Understandable in a "let bygones be bygones" kinda way. This may have happened when you met me last week. "Ohh, that's that asshole that was bitchin about my friends bike price, what a dick!"

I'll buy you an e-beer tonight.

You guys that think this is about my rep or whining either didn't read it or don't get what I'm trying to say. It's about attitude. I'm on many forums and they all have their badasses. The difference is that those forums consist of members from all over the world that will likely never meet. This place is different. I have met or will meet every respondent in this thread so far. Will those of you saying malicious things do so in person? No, probably not. If we meet, you'll probably be like, "hahaha dood i was jus jokin on that thread hahaha!" Why? What's the point? I try to remember that many people have much different online personas than their meat space selves. I just don't understand treatin people like shit when you're likely gonna be riding with them later in the season. Or when you might need their help on the side of the road. I'm a sarcastic asshole and I know I've said things that have rubbed people the wrong way, but I can say with certainty the things I say online I will tell to someone's face.

I really could do it if you want. It would keep me from drinkin and ridin

I am a relative new member here so I should probably just keep my mouth shut... But that's not me. I've had the pleasure to meet several Ohio Riders in person at a couple different bike nights. Everyone I've met so far seems to be pretty good people and I'd like to think that will continue with each subsequent member I meet. My interactions on the forum haven't been as consistently gracious. Now some of you are going to say that I'm only spouting off now because I got a bunch of negative rep. To be honest, that is a bit true, but not in the way you think. I noticed immediately upon joining the board a very divisive clique culture. One that seemed to thrive on this "rep" thing. I thought to myself, "that's kinda cool, they've got a system to indicate what members are generally stand-up individuals." This seemed to be a really neat tool that would help new and old members alike to determine who to trust for advice or who were good people to deal with. To an extent this is true. Unfortunately this system is significantly abused when the inevitable forum argument breaks out. "I don't like what you have to say, I'm going to negative rep you and not sign it! hahahlolololrofl!" I mean really? Is this what we've come to? I can't come to a forum and have a discussion with opposing viewpoints without a dogpile? Now the standard defense will be, "Nobody forced you to click on or reply to that thread." This I understand. Do we really need so much hostility? I also understand mob mentality. When kept in check reasonably, it's fine. Should the group react to someone that abused the generosity of forum members? Definitely. But do we need to keep jumping on his carcass once he's thrown in the towel? I realize that my opinions are just that. I'm not trying to start a debate or argument. I just had to get this off my chest. I'd like to think that this could be a VERY successful forum. Ohio is one of the top motorcycling states in the country and having THE forum dedicated to that could become a very powerful (and lucrative ) tool. Unfortunately the grating behavior of some long time members makes it quite difficult for new members to come in and gain footing. I came in with a wave of other guys from ADV and most of them joined and then never came back. Why? Because of all the stupid and petty fighting. Most people that join forums are quiet adult lurkers that will simply float under the radar and never post. If this site has a bunch of angry people all over the place, they don't stick around. Now you may say, "who cares? if they don't like it, there's the door!" but from an administration standpoint, membership gives this forum power. Power to generate ad revenue and the ability to get bigger and better. So what do I want? That doesn't really matter. I'm just one voice jabberin (too much coffee today, I think.) I do think the need for reputations should be assessed. Or maybe make signatures automatic? I think that would go a long way to relax some of the e-thugs. You made it this far? Whoah. Zach out.

sweet 'preciate it.

i mean i could shuttle your ass all over franklin county, but you're right, that would be a lot of drivin.