BadTrainDriver

That's 3x my budget and as much as we paid for my wife's 2015 legacy 2.5 brand new

It's a better car than a 2015 Legacy 2.5i, but I understand it being over budget.

Good luck with your search!

CSC, here's a copy and paste from my for sale ad on a local Subaru forum:

2013 Subaru Legacy 3.6R Limited, NAV, Sunrrof. Every option you could get in 2013 EXCEPT Eyesight.

Twilight Blue Metallic, Dark Interior.

Not quite 27k miles on it, but increasing slightly as it's my daily driver.

It has the following items installed:

Xpel Ultimate Clear Bra since day one. Full front bumper, partial hood and front fenders, side mirrors. Installation done at Esoteric Detail. Top notch work!

20% Llumar Ceramic Tint done by Performance Auto Spa, all windows, no front strip added.

Rear spoiler, factory painted.

Body Side Molding Kit, factory painted and installed.

Rear bumper applique.

Subaru Remote Engine Start.

Subaru Splash Guards.

WeatherTech DigitalFit FloorLiners Front and Rear, plus Trunk.

Also includes never used Subaru All Weather floor mats and Subaru carpeted floor mats, front and rear.

Subaru Lighted Door Sills.

Subaru Puddle Lights.

Subaru Floor Lights.

Subaru Lighted Cup Holders.

DBA T2 Street Series Slotted Rotors front and rear, Carbotech 1521 Brake Pads front and rear, Ate Super Blue brake fluid. Installed at 11k miles. HUGE increase in brake feel, and zero fade when driven hard.

Subaru OEM 19mm Rear Sway Bar Upgrade.

Two sets of wheels, both sets complete with OEM Subaru TPMS sensors.

Summer(as pictured) 18" Subaru Legacy Sport wheels with 225/50ZR18 95W Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. Wheels are perfect, zero rash, installed mid summer last year, ran until the end of November 2014, taken off for this past winter, re-installed April 1st, 2015. Approx 8k miles on the tires at present.

Winter 17" OEM Subaru Legacy 3.6R wheels with 225/55R17 Michelin X-Ice Xi3. Less than 5k miles, driven from December 2014 through March 2015. Wheels are perfect, zero rash.

Maintenance Performed:

Oil changes have always been Redline 5W30 with OEM filter. First change at 1k miles, second at 4k miles, and every 5k miles since.

AFE Power Magnum Flow Pro 5R Dry Air Filter. MAF was cleaned when filter was installed, 19k miles, November 2014.

Fram Fresh Breeze Cabin Air Filter installed at 19k miles, November 2014.

Front and rear diff fluid drain and refill done at 19k miles, November 2014, Motul Gear 300.

5EAT transmission drain and refill of approx. 4.5 quarts done at 19k miles, Motul Multi ATF.

See brake upgrade above for brake fluid complete flush at 11k miles.

Power steering fluid and engine coolant is stock fill, and looks fine.

Alignment done less than 500 miles ago when swapping to summer wheels/tires. Zero Toe front and rear, front camber -1.4 degrees both side. Rear camber and front Castor all in spec. Car drive fantastic!

Subaru Added Security Gold Plus 7yr/70k miles $50 Deductible included! I'll pay the transfer fee if applicable.

All books, keys, fobs, tools, and original window sticker included.

Anyone who know me knows I take care of my stuff. This car is no exception. I purchased it new, it's never been in an accident, zero paint work, and it's been obsessively over maintained. The interior looks new, the exterior looks almost new, and not a single thing needs attention. This isn't the "used car that needs everything done to it." I'd go so far as to say you'll not find a cleaner, better optioned, better maintained used Legacy 3.6R anywhere. Test drives for serious buyers are more than welcome. Feel free to PM me with any questions.

$24,000 firm.

Can't even find a used 6 cyl legacy.

I'll sell you mine, but you'd have to wait until I ordered a 2016 Outback as it's replacement. If you're interested, PM me.

I'm on Subaru #8, and have owned damn near every variety they offer. My current ride is a 2013 Legacy 3.6R Limited, and I fucking love it. For the foreseeable future, I'll not even consider another brand of automobile.

As far as what to look for a whatnot, Isaac's Papa has hit the nail on the head.

Good luck with your search!

Bravo for wearing a helmet!

Heal up fast!!

Old 21 IPA.

If you haven't tried it, you should.

It is not for the faint of heart.

I have one. I sold Chris a car last month. It's pretty cool, but runs out of gas fast(30 sec.). I wouldn't have paid for it, but I wasn't going to say no when he offered to give me one.

Police say Chambers was not wearing a helmet.

I wonder if the end outcome would be different if she'd been wearing a helmet. We'll never know. Sucks all the same.

See post #3, haha!

Beautiful bike though, seriously!

clutch slips above 3/4 throttle.

Front brake caliper needs rebuilt.

It's never done...

I'm not sure how we can make this not commonplace. The rest of the world has had to deal with this shit for decades. Can it even be stopped? I'm not sure there is a fix for this.

 

I agree with her that President Obama is a wet noodle. I'm also disturbed that ANY religion still has credibility in 2015.

Fear gives religion credibility, and "radical Islam" is feared on a whole new level. I wonder how many lives have been lost "in the name of Islam" in the last say 15 years, compared to Hitler and his attempted eradication of the Jews? 

Mark my words, we've only seen the tip of this battle. It's going to get a whole lot worse before it get's better.

It would be an interesting fight in court on the earplug ticket.  BMV clearly says you should wear them in the handbook they hand out. The State sponsored MSF course says wear them. I would argue that the State teaching people to wear earplugs while writing tickets for it is BS.

Actually, there is a "legal disclaimer" statement in the Ohio Motorcycle Operator Manual concerning the use of earplugs. Under "Preparing to Ride", "Hearing Protection", quote : "Whether you choose disposable foam earplugs or reusable custom molded devices, be sure you adhere to state laws regarding hearing protection."

It may be easy to blame us train folk... Let us not forget about the I70 bridge in Columbus that got blown to bits this week...

Church.

My worse motorcycle accident involving bodily injury..."test riding" a buddies brand new FZ1, at his house, in shorts, no helmet, in flip flops...dumped it when his driveway went from asphalt to gravel...I still have scars, better than 10 years ago now. Luckily wallet wise, the bike landed on me, and only suffered a broken mirror and scratched foot peg.

Financially worst motorcycle accident...taking my 1999 BMW K1200RS off it's center stand while standing to the left of it...it flopped over to the right, bringing me over on top of it...cost me almost $3000 in broken fairings and assorted misc. parts that were scratched.

I feel your pain.

don't know about knee rubbing but my pipe's got rub marks on my sport tourer? I will ask why in motorcycle  safety course next wk

Body position.

Your body is leaning to the left, in relation to where your waist is.

You're using your lower body to lean the bike.

Leaning your body more allows you to lean the bike less.

Look at this link:

http://www.ofirmx.com/blog/2013-04-10/motorcycle-cornering-survival-reactions-and-proper-body-positioning/21

Compare the "correct" and "incorrect" body angles, about halfway down the page.

Notice how yours is exactly like the incorrect pictures.

It's a very common mistake of new riders. 

I'm sitting on the toilet right now, taking a massive shit.

Any recommendations on toilet paper?

Actually, I'll probably just jump in the shower and let the poop cascade down on my feet.

The toilet needs cleaned too, I'm sure.

Mexican food, plus six beers, on an outside deck, in this humidity...not the brightest idea I've had.

Good chart showing gear ratio differences between 5 speed auto and 6 speed standard. Also, how tire sizes affect performance.

http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Mechanical/gearratio.html

Some info on the W5A580:

The W5A580 debuted in 1995 Mercedes-Benz passenger vehicles and is known to be one of the smoothest, most fuel-efficient and cost-effective transmissions in the industry. Its unique three-channel torque converter helps provide an exceptionally smooth ride and shifting, while reducing fuel consumption. A $455 million upgrade project at the Indiana Transmission Plant was started in 2001 and completed in 2003. The 600,000 SF plant was designed to produce around 400,000 of the W5A580 transmissions per year for the North American market. The transmission project was the first joint effort between the company's American and German wings after the Chrysler Corp. and Daimler-Benz merge in 1998.

A broad ratio spread from First to the Fifth was selected to minimize fuel consumption and reduce powertrain noise during cruising. An aggressive First-gear ratio provides excellent launch performance, and evenly spaced gear ratios provide smooth acceleration through the gears.

World-class efficiency is achieved through physical and electronic means. This transmission uses bearings to reduce friction in many locations where other transmissions may utilize bushings. The transmission also uses a unique scavenging system that removes oil spun off of the rotating parts by centrifugal force through strategically placed slots in the outside of the case. This saves energy that would be consumed by internal parts rotating in oil. Lubricating holes in the clutches are also positioned to promote quick passage of the transmission fluid through the discs, minimizing viscous losses due to trapped oil.

The shift schedule adapts to individual driving style, driving situation and road conditions, altering shift points based on an accelerator pedal usage, brake usage, lateral acceleration, altitude and load on the car as a result of grades. Electronically controlled engine torque management provides quick wide-open-throttle up shifts and quick two-step (4-2 or 3-1) kick-down shifts that are exceptionally smooth.

Transmission ratios:

Gear W5A580 545RFE

1st .........3.59.......... 3.00

2nd ........2.19......... 1.67 upshift / 1.50 kickdown

3rd......... 1.41...........1.0

4th...........1.00........ 0.75

5th .........0.83 .........0.67

Reverse ..3.16......... 3.0

Fully adaptive electronic control of all shifting makes shifts very smooth. The system monitors the transmission as shifts occur and adjusts hydraulic pressure as needed. In so doing, the controls make the powertrain feel responsive without harshness.

Driver recognition software alters shift points based on accelerator pedal usage, brake usage and lateral acceleration. This does not require a compromise between sporty and economical operation, nor is it a question of choosing one or the other.

A torque management system uses engine torque modeling to facilitate smooth transmission shifting. Because of electronic throttle control, torque management is more sophisticated and covers a broad torque range. Torque converter clutch slippage is electronically modulated and provides for partial engagement in Third, Fourth or Fifth gears. This results in improved shift feel, fuel economy, driveability and cooling. It can be used at lower speeds to provide benefits over a broad speed range. The system disengages as required to provide optimal performance.

We have had our 2014 since november of last year and love it. You will have no problem hauling a small trailer. I haul a 17ft boat behind ours all the time. It trailers great. If you are wanting to take advantage of the 4x4 just make sure you get a locking rear diff. best $250 you will spend on a factory option ever. I think the sahara and rubicon come with them but not the sport model. And the newer autos are a 6spd so that helps a ton with gas mileage. I have a handful of complaints but they are minor and only about interior setup. You will have plenty of room for the whole family and the seats fold down flat so i use it like a truck a good amount of the time.

What kind of gas mileage are you seeing? I'm looking at either the Sahara or Rubicon. Haven't decided between auto or manual. I'd normally say manual all day, but from what I've been reading the new 6spd auto is awesome for everything. I commute, and traffic sucks in Columbus. That'd be another reason for an auto.

The automatic in the 2012+ Wrangler is a five speed. W5A580. And it is a very good transmission.

If you need to know something about a Wrangler, just ask me.

My 1990 Wrangler when I bought it:

My 1990 when I sold it:

My 2000 TJ Sport:

2012 JK Rubicon:

At 55 to 60 MPH, my Unlimited Rubicon would turn an actual 20 MPG.

Stop and go traffic, or 70-75MPH, and it would drop to 14-15 actual MPG.

I've had a 1990 YJ, two TJ's, and then the 2012 Unlimited JK Rubicon...and the JK was hands down the best riding, driving, and overall performing Jeep.

And you gotta be 21 to buy alcohol, that doesn't stop kids from drinking.

I was correcting your ignorance to the law, not implying that it would physically stop someone from breaking it.

I don't think Ohio has any laws on the books about it yet.

Must be 18 to purchase.

Except for that fender thing... Of course that was operator error.

Lol, at the fender hole!

Basically the exact same I'm looking at. Why would you do auto over manual if you bought another one?

Like Pokey said...I'm getting old. That, and the 5 speed auto is actually a really good transmission.