The route was kinda lame but it wasnt I.P.s fault the Yamaha guys kinda took over the show and took no recomendation from th elocal guys, there was more to the story but i dont want to litter up the thread with it right now maybe at the end of the weekend when all is over with. Nice talking to you "Iron pony guy" sorry im bad with names, and sorry you had to deal with those lame assholes. I rode the FZ8 just to be able to ride some thing with out haveing to wait 2 hrs. It was very smooth and flickable but like adam said we could not streach thier legs (at all). Too small of a framed bike for my big ass(obviously), and i hated the rubber mounted rear sets, they flexed WAY too much. But been there, done that, got (the wife) a tshirt for it. Also checked out the Scorpion EXO-900 modular transformer helmet and i likey, waiting on Nate to give me a qoute, they were $269 at the pony(too much to spend right now not really "needing" one yet). Good meeting you adam and thanks for having lunch with me and that other guy:lol:.