ill post this here too ....... Giving it some more thought and if you guys are going to leave at the butt crack of dawn like you say you are, maybe traveling with the group will be more fun. So as of now you guys have 3 rigs in the caravan(Carwhore, CMH_S, MT)correct. So if any of you have a set in stone leaving time and meet place let me know. From the sound of it Jagr wasnt fond of my idea anyway, and habi i dont think really cares either way, and josh is just a newb poser and will do what we say anyways:lol: Hey Sorethumb1969, even if you do this you will have to leave you hood, VERY F'N early.