Warlock

+1 It took forever to get the Long Suffering Mrs Warlock to climb on the back of my bike. I think I would have a coronary if she actually started to ride.

Hell, if its Illinois you don't even have to be alive to vote!!

Actually, if you take into account where the "gang banger" hangs out it really isn't much of a surprise. And if you take into account their education, home life and outlook on life it really isn't too surprising. Its really no different an attitude the average 1%er has. You argument is specious.

My bike, the Red Rover, on the Blue Ridge.

Yep, I heard it too.

Yep, agree with both. Also, stock seeds for a garden.

What he said....errrrr.......emoted.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. Everyone in this wonderful country has the right to bitch. BUT!!! BUT!!! We don't have to listen or heed.

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That was funny...with just a hint of truth...lol

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Wow, that's awesome.

Both you guys make valid points but don't forget the pucker factor of the business end of a 12 gauge vs a .380.

Here are the "bullet points" (haha - i'm hilarious) of my situation: - my primary concern is home defense, but I want to actually USE any firearm I purchase. Range shooting needs to be possible and affordable (i know the last range I was at didn't allow rifles or shotguns...) Shotgun, find a new range. - my wife doesn't like firearms. I have to choose ONE (for now). She particularly dislikes the size and "image" of shotguns, or this would be an easy decision. Tough Sh*t...bad guys dislike shotguns too. - I am CHEAP. $200 is my absolute max budget. Cheaper would be better. - cost and availability of ammo matter a lot. Shotgun meets all those requirements - "stopping power" isn't a huge concern for me. Missing an intruder and shooting through my neighbor's wall IS a concern... Shotgun gives you both stopping and less likelihood of shooting up the the neighbors house. With the added advantage (with buckshot) that you don't NEED to be an accomplished marksman. Practice is always recommended.

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Several people have mentioned it and it's true. Carry what you are comfortable with. I don't think there is anything wrong with a wheel gun for an inexperienced CCW holder. A gunfight is no place to learn about double feeds or stovepipes. So a wheel gun makes sense to me for someone who can then spend time learning and practicing with their semi-auto.

Got about 8K so far. Not done yet.

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Done

Ummmm, lets see....lemme weigh this... The effers kill me or I perhaps put a few holes in a neighbors house and yet survive...nah, sorry.

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