smash, When i was looking for the VFR, the only bike for sale in OHIO was asking around the KBB value and that too at the high end of the spectrum. But i really wanted the bike, started riding it the next day since not many days in ohio to play waiting game for motorcycle, was close enough that i could ride it back home since i didnt have trailer, Yes the price could have been lowered by another 500 or so, but I didnt want to risk loosing it. But in your case I see no advantage for you to chase this deal like the end of the world, u have time, money and options at your disposal to play with till next spring. And for few months i was looking at duc monsters in Craiglist constantly and was amazed to see the amount of ducatis coming up for sale in and around Ohio itself. So low ball him and let him crank it up a notch to sell, if not wait and u will be rewarded . Just my 0.02$