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Or this.

Sometimes I'll use a socket for bleeder screws. You can put a six foot extension on it if you need to. Just clean the socket off good afterwards.

I wouldn't. Not with nothing in between the pads. Can you spin the caliper around on the rotor (flip in inside out) to get better access to the bleeder screw? Ultimately, though, I think the proper tool may be in order.

The example Madcat gave, if I understand it correctly, was as follows: 1) Thieves stole a bike, owner reported it stolen. 2) Thieves swapped frame or maybe just VIN tag with that of a legal bike. 3) Unsuspecting Former OR Member (U-FORM) buys bike with a legal title and a legal VIN. 4) At some point down the road, original owner sees U-FORM selling bike which looks familiar, confirms it is stolen via other identifiable serial (engine number). 5) Bike is impounded as stolen (which it is, see #1), U-FORM is kinda screwed. Yes this happens regardless of whether the vehicle has a title or not. And in this instance, it did happen with a title. I absolutely agree, whether you're buying a titled bike from Larry down the street or a bike for track use from Habib's Discount "Not Stolen" Bike Lot off Parsons, the single most important thing to do is verify all the serial numbers and verify that those do not coincide with a stolen bike. And at the end of the day, it might still be stolen and you might still be fucked. Such is life, friend. I will say that every time I buy and sell a used car private party, in addition to the title, I also fill out a basic bill of sale with all of our info, the date and TIME of the transaction and the amount of the sale. I include things like an as-is clause and a clause stating there are no liens or other encumbrances on the vehicle. I had someone buy a car from my wife and I, wrecked it the next day. Their insurance company tried to pass it off on our insurance. I sent them a fax of the BoS... never heard another peep.

Well, sort of. What a notary is actually notarizing is the seller's signature on the assignment portion of the title. What the seller is signing is that all of the assignment portion is correct to his knowledge. In the case of the Ohio title, this information includes buyer's name and address, sale price, seller's name and address and date of transfer. If a notary is truly savvy and doing his job, he would not sign a title in which any of that information is blank. Now, I'm not naive enough to think that doesn't happen all the time, heck, as a notary, I notarized tens of thousands of titles and rarely if ever was this section completely filled out. As a notary in a business, you make the assumption that other parties in the business will fill out that area and this is typically legit. That being said, try to have the BMV notarize your signature on an open title and see what happens. Nothing. They won't touch it unless the entire top half is filled out. That's because if the assignment section is not complete, there is nothing for the seller to attest to as factual, which is ultimately what the notary is challenging him to do. It's sort of like making out a contract for a loan with your bank, but they leave the interest rate, payment schedule and total loan amount blank, then want you to sign it.

Well, if you want to get technical, the seller is, but he is in violation of the law. If he signs the title and has it notarized without the buyer information filled out, at least partially, it is an "open title," which is a big ol' nono. The back of the Ohio title should only be filled out when the title is being transferred. EDIT: Just read the last section of this post - if the buyer never fills out his section "to save the hassle when selling it" that's called "jumping titles" and is a pound-me-in-the-ass prison sort of offense in Ohio. Just FYI to anyone out there who may know a guy somewhere that may consider doing it.

In this case, if the seller has signed the title and it is notarized, and you have filled your information out as the buyer, the vehicle is yours, legally. In the event that the seller would go print another title at the BMV, your title would still be valid, however, I always recommend going right the the BMV and getting the title in your name to prevent this from happening - you would have to argue pretty hard about the legality of the titles and prove which was valid in a court of law. But once the title is assigned to you, ownership transfers. Honestly, you could leave it like this indefinitely and it wouldn't be an issue until you went to sell it, since Ohio only allows one assignment per title. NEXT: If you are a valid owner of a vehicle titled in your name and you lose the title, you are either lazy or cheap if you don't get another one. It takes no more than a trip to the title office and less than $20 to get another one. If you're selling a titled vehicle, get a title for it. LASTLY: If you are not going to license a vehicle in Ohio (put plates on it and take it on a public thoroughfare), I don't give a fuck if your write something out on a cocktail napkin. As long as the seller (or another previous owner) doesn't come looking for it, you're legally the owner of the vehicle. Ohio is a chain-of-title state, so the only concrete ownership they acknowledge is a title. Beyond a title, it gets grey. Bill of sale is a legal term, not a BMV term. As long as everyone in the transaction trusts one another, badabing - there you go. Ohio is one of the strictest (if not the strictest) states in the Union when it comes to ownership and titles, and there's very little grey area. At the end of the day, when it comes to the purchase of a used vehicle to be licensed, the only way that it can be done in 99.999(go about a hundred more 9s)% of the time is from a clean title of ownership to you. I know there are a lot of people on this forum that "know" titles and buy and sell a lot of cars/bikes/etc, but I can guarantee that unless you work at the BMV or have been doing this for decades, there is no one here who's name has been on more titles than mine, as a buyer, seller, company representative or notary. Sorry to sound like a dick, but this seems to be the third or fourth thread that has similar pissing matches in it. I hope this post clears things up. CLIFFS NOTES VERSION- If you want it on the street, get a title. If you want to race it or for dirt, no one gives a shit, just don't buy it stolen. Just don't expect you or any other subsequent owner to have it on the street.

Yeah - glad to see him up and moving - prayers will continue, but this is excellent news!

It may be different on a bike NEVER titled (dirt bike, etc), but the topic of "mechanic's liens" and I also believe getting a title via bill of sale have been beaten to death in other threads. Not easy at all for an individual. Almost have to be a business with some equity in the bike (repair shop, dealership, tow company).

Welcome to OR! Old school today:

This picture is little. We need to see one that's BIG!

Why do scammers always think this shit up before I do?

Not in Ohio. And not many places if it's newer.

My phone barely loads the site, but I can read and post from it. I'm 95% computer...

I would do a little research into why this bike has no title. I'd want a pretty solid story before I bought it. Also call local LEO to verify it is not stolen.

Wow. That was quick!

Until we see one with a Ferrari V12, I'm unimpressed.

I may do the wheels on the Sable first - been wanting to go to black. Any advice from those who have done it (cleaning, preparation, etc?)

Mac Donald's makes cheap food - that's why Honey Boo Boo's mom is a fat cow. I hate when the premise of an argument is a faulty logic. I read an article a few years back that found that children with a highly "ethnic" (their word) name, like Shaniqua, was more likely to have lower standardized test scores, and tried to draw that correlation. The logic there is flawed. Simpson's put it best, you can prove anything you want with facts.

Nice looking bike - enjoy it! I looked hard at the RC51 after my VTR. Be honest, I was scared. That's a big boy bike.

I may just have to do this on the Sable. I wanted to change the color - this looks pretty painless...