We all know you don't give a fuck steve. The rides I've been on usually organized themselves based on skill. Guys who know they're fast up front, guys who are kind of fast in the middle, humble riders towards the end and an experienced guy riding sweep. Last ride I was on I was at the front of the middle. The guy behind me, gunner75, belonged in the back. Twice he almost hit me or haphazardly passed me because he was trying to push his ninja 650 too hard in the straits to keep up with the liters. We would put a huge gap in the group, he would run the balls off his bike in the straits and at the next curve he would be either up my ass or next to me. At one curve he went so wide he said 'fuck it', got lucky and went up some guys driveway...ahead of me and across the double yellow. That dude sketched me out, I'm not in my mirrors all the time, I like having an entire lane to operate within. I guess what I'm trying to say is if I'm holding you up and you need to pass, do so in the oncoming lane safely...I think it's past my bedtime.