ill be out of town till next sunday but a few of us were talking at bike night and sounds like either would be a fun place, rule 3 the fam could tag along and it would be fun for those with kids and whatnot.
When I click the link it sais " u are not allowed to view because u are not a member of this group" I found the group but it said I needed the I'D number and pw, not the group name