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I've come to the conclusion that no matter who wins in November, we're screwed.

I complain about everything.

Training ammo $8 each Tracer ammo $15 each + shipping (minimum order required). I'd cry everytime I pulled the trigger.

No, for the .50BMG. No, for the 20mm, though you'll need to pay your $200 stamp tax because it is considered a destructive device. No, for the 14mm, but I'm not sure if it's considered a DD since it's just shy of cannon status.

No 20mm. No care. http://www.anzioironworks.com/images/20mm022standingatangle-FP.jpg 20mm Vulcan: http://www.anzioironworks.com/images/bulletsizes.jpg If I were going to get into large caliber rounds, I'd most definitely have a reloading setup, first. Now, I know you can reload .50BMG, but the 14 and 20mm, I'm not so sure about. I'd be hard to say the least. I would also hope that you have deep pockets if you decide to get into this type of shooting. Everytime you pull the trigger is going to cost you between $4-$15, again, depending on choice. 15mm is cannon status. If it were me, I'd go .50BMG. It's relatively much cheaper than the other two, and there are a bunch of different guns made to shoot it.

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Done.

I know. I've been meaning to change it.

Just strollin' through....

Really? I've heard nothing but great things 'bout 'em. I've never shot one, so, this makes me sad. PM inbound...

STI Spartan > all entry level 1911's. True story.

Fixed that for ya.

http://www.stiguns.com/guns/Spartan/images/Spartan06-Main_800w.jpg GREAT gun from what I've heard. Springer Precision sells a customized, basic Spartan if you're looking for a starter race gun. IIRC, it's around $1,100, with the upgrades.

Probably true. They look blood red in color to anybody else? or is it my shitty computer screen at work?

Can we get a summer track day? School ownz my springs and falls.

I'm going down there with a gun and asserting myself King.

Most definitely the hedgehog's fault.

Wrong again. While the possibility is there, I don't think one should just GIVE UP. Also, proper training teaches you how to deal with situations like this. Granted, not in your basic CCW course, but there are numerous schools out there dedicated to prepping you for such a situation. It's up to you to decide how prepared you want to be. It's that 1% that'll get you everytime. Again, you're wrong. But I already discussed that. So you should punch the guy with the gun instead? Gotcha. Evan's turn: My man. Agreed, to a point. Just because we couldn't stop them, doesn't mean we shouldn't try should the scenario ever arise (which I firmly believe it won't). Also, you don't have to take out the whole military, just the people leading it. This is a more feasible approach, and an incentive to keep the public armed, IMO. I respectfully disagree. I already explained my reasoning to Eric. Look up for further clarification. Some. Not all. But I'd be lying if I said there wasn't mallninjas amoung the crowd. All the time? Nah. It only needs to happen to you once. Once is enough. You also can't deny the advantage you would have by an attacker not knowing you've got a weapon. Seen many fire fights breakout in front of Walmart? It's the dark alleys you've gotta worry about. Most of the time, you'll be by yourself; hence the problem. You don't have to have "little man" syndrome just because you wanna protect you and yours. Some people just like to be a little more prepared than others. There's no harm in that. My man, Greg. <3 This man sees my thoughts exactly. Guns do not kill people. PEOPLE are the underlying problem. Ban all people, and the killing will STOP COMPLETELY! :bangbang: :bangbang: :bangbang:

After this, you lost any credibility you might have had regarding your knowledge of firearms. I really don't see the reasoning behind the week wait. If you're determined to kill someone, you'll either A. Find a gun elsewhere, or B. Kill them a week later. I have no problem waiting, but I think the idea is just dumb. Then you've obviously not put a lot of thought into the reasoning behind carrying it concealed. The idea behind keeping it concealed is to give you one more advantage over an assailant. If you've got it exposed, and someone decides they're brave enough to chance it, what's to stop them from coming up behind you and disarming you, thus taking away any advantage you had? Nothing. If it's concealed, they won't know about it, and you've still got a chance. Another reason is because the public doesn't like to see a gun strapped to people. Soccer moms call the cops when they see things like this. It's just one less hassle to deal with. Another reason is that I personally don't think it's any of your damn business if I choose to carry or not. If I ever choose to get a CCW permit (and who knows, I might already have it?) no one but myself will know about it. Why? Because it's none of their business. I do it for myself, and mine, and no one else. Final question. Anti's scream for background checks. Guess what they do inorder to issue you a CCW permit? That's right; background check. You got your background checks you were screaming for, so why are you so worried about the people that PASSED, being batshit crazy? Haven't we already eliminated The Crazies per YOUR background checks? I would agree that guns, by nature, are designed for inflicting tissue damage, and sometimes, death is a byproduct. Such is life. We should clarify the point of a CCW weapon though. They are NOT meant for killing. They are meant for protecting. If the killing is needed for protecting, then so be it. We should also clarify WHO a CCW is meant to kill, if the time arives. People that need killed generally won't be missed. I would also like to say that COLLECTING firearms is now one of my favorite hobbies. Stamps are meant for mailing letters, but people collect those, too. BINGO! Well, not the only reason, but I've already discussed that. I would agree. Though, I would wager that the vast majority of CCW folk PRAY they never have to. Threatened? Nah. More like they like the idea of being prepared. You only get one life, and (most of the time, hehe) one family. Do what you've gotta do to hold onto them. BTW, do you carry a spare tire in your car because you're scared of getting a flat? Or do you just like to be prepared incase the need arises for one? Agreed. But I'd argee that A. That's partially why they have you take the training; to prepare for such an event (Though I would HIGHLY advise a person to take further training to prepare as you can never have enough), and B. Most of the people that get it, aren't a bunch of idiots. Have you been affected yet by any of the numerous people you've undoubtedly passed who were carrying concealed? What difference, to you, will it make if it's on the outside or the inside of their clothes? They won't be doing anything different than they are already doing. It can happen just as easily on the street, in a park, at the community pool, etc. Reaction time is reaction time, no matter where you are. You don't mind your wifey getting raped for 10 minutes in a park late at night while she waits on the cops to show up and help her (if they even come at all), do you? If they are essentially the same weapons, then what does it matter if the general public can have an AK or not? You said it yourself; they are essentially the same. Absolutely, not true. -What if they miss? -What if they didn't intend to kill you at first, but change their mind halfway through? -What if they think your wife hasn't had a good dicking in awhile and decide they should be the one to give it to her?

DISCLAIMER: These aren't meant to be personal attacks. Just friendly debates. Also, spelling was not corrected.

I've posed this challenge on other forums before, and NO ONE has been able to complete it. -Find me ONE (1) news article, story, etc, where a lawful CCWer has flipped his fucking wig and went on a mass killing spree, OR, where an innocent bystander has been killed by a CCWer with a hero complex. With as anti-gun as the media is, you should have absolutely no problem finding such an article. Afterall, CCWers are just gun-toting wanna-be heros, right?

This space is reserved for one hell of an anti-bashing post. Please stand by.

Bloomberg's a faggot.

He wasn't lying about getting on it. Get some sticky tires and launch that mother fucker for all she's worth.

I already broke it down for him.