TheHaze

LOL!!

Wow, we're like the same person. You should drive a Mini too!

+1 "Gingers have no soul".

+1. Not knowing each turn at first really makes things more difficult. They have a few in-car videos of 1 lap on the Mid Ohio website. I'm sure you can find tons on Youtube as well.

+1 for Slimpsy. :thumbup:

And I love with people with dyno-mind know the power a car makes from behind their monitors. For one, 550hp at 4000lbs is still a fuck-load less power-to-weight then the ZR1. Lastly, I'll stick with that range of power until I see an official graph. Edit: I can't find anywhere that states the GTR used r compounds. The only thing I've read is that it used these run-flats: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dunlop.co.jp%2Fnewsrelease%2F2008%2F2008_039.htm&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=ja&tl=en This is funny that I feel like I'm arguing for the GTR because I would sooo take a ZR1 over it.

"Only" 1 second. And you think "2" seconds is somehow a shit-ton more for the ZR1 over the base GTR? (not to mention the V Spec model is STILL heavier and less powerful then the ZR1) And no, they weren't the same conditions; different months, different drivers, different tires. How do you know there's "not a lot left" with a better Nissan driver? I wasn't aware he was a former racer, but that was what, 15 years ago? The fact is, they're both tremendous cars, and both the GM fans and import fans are yet-again taking drama to cars they will never own. Respect both.

I'll be there in August.

Nissan GTR: -Curb weight of 3800 lbs -420 bhp Corvette ZR1: -Curb weight of 3350 lbs -640 bhp Holy shit, with so much difference in weight and horsepower, I'm surprised the GTR is only 2 seconds away (in controversial and different conditions). ...and the ZR1 is just a beefed up Vette, while the GTR isn't the beefed up version, the V-Spec is. I predict that will win it all. I'm not arguing for the sake of it or because I like Nissan, I truly want American production cars to go in this direction and think the ZR1 is possibly the sexiest car ever made, but the fanboyism is hilarious.

They appear to have a bit more work put in to them than most oem cars. Also, do you care to respond to anything else I posted, or even something relevant to this topic? Or did you just want to nit-pick one detail? Both cars are engineering awesomeness and I'd love to have either, mostly the ZR1, but so much drama from so-called "enthusiasts" is getting really old.

No, that isn't valid. The GTR people are whiny idiots, then. They should leave the ZR1 alone and vice versa. Godamn GM and Jap people. It never ends.

Lazy or lying.

God, that looks so fun. On a side note, the comparisons against the GTR are lame. -What are the power-to-weight ratios of both? -Weren't the GTR runs at the 'ring during the cold in November? I mean, you're talking a difference of 2 seconds at two completely different temperatures. -The Nurburgring wasn't closed down for the GTR while running there; it had to pass several cars. -Although the ZR1 doesn't have r compounds, it's still using tires specifically developed for that car. -Also, the driver of the ZR1 would have to learn that track somehow, so my guess is he's had several hundred laps there before in order to know it well enough. -The "race car driver" of the GTR is actually just a factory test driver for Nissan. -The ZR1 did the lap from a rolling start, though I'm not sure how the GTR began. I think that comparing a difference of 2 seconds on a track as large as that is pointless, there are so many factors. Put the same driver in both and see the times. I'm not saying the GTR would win, but it would be an actual respectable comparison. That said, I'd take a pretty ZR1 over that Nissan pile any day.

I remember that. That kid is a little prick.

In his mind, he is. In reality, he's losing.

LOL!!!: Nobody even laughs...bwahahaha!

No eye protection required. The only thing I had was an open-face helmet.

I always thought of him as *.

That's because the term that should have been used is "multiracial" in the case of two racially different parents.

Well, if that's what black looks like, I've got some serious vision issues.

By the things you've typed in the past, no examples come to mind but, I was under the impression that you were black.

Can white people not wear those things? You're generalizing all blacks. You racist!!1

Don't know why, but I always thought you were black.

That's a relief, especially the Sharpton part.

To be honest, make sure your car runs well and that everything is solid. Do not worry about stuff like tire pressure and car specifics. Trust me, you'll feel like a noob once things get going. After you have the first driver's meeting, the last thing you'll be thinking about is how your car is setup. Also, I just got my track booklet thing in the mail that my instructor filled out with specific advice for me and what to work on as well as everything I did well on. It's very neat. I can't wait to go back. Good luck.