actually I have found that 2.5 bottom's tend to go quicker than 2.0's, I'm at 330 whp and 320 tq on 168,000 and have been for some time on my 2.0, not saying it's a "numbers" goal as it's more of what better suit's your driving habits and what yeilds reliability. I built a 07 STI for a customer that's throwing 536 whp on stock bottom end, not saying how long it will last but it's what he wanted. Motors go out stock or go out modded, crap shoot, but modded will get you worse odds. Brandon you know me and you know I don't own/build slow cars and my stuff dosen't blow up, I think all opinion's here have been valid and should be considered. All comes down to what you want, call me man let's get some beer's and talk subie's