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Hands down I'd rather have the Hellcat. I could really care less about the cost of gasoline and with the Tesla being so overpriced in comparison give me the Hellcat any day vs it. Dollar for dollar against the P85D I'd rather have Kirk's RS7 and bitch slap it with an APR Tune. Now that's bad-ass. :thumbup:

LOL at the first 45 seconds

Hell, drive that beast out there!

Could leave them up and crawl out the trunk?

I'll probably get to blocks about 615. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk

Thanks for the info! See you there with a couple non CR folks who have signed up and will be joining us. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk

Anyone know if there's a convoy /meeting place Friday morning where people are meeting to cruise out from? If so when and where from? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk

Too bad. Not I a position to check but... GO KRT SLOT CAR Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk

GO KART should be your plate Looks amazing and I bet it's a blast.

^^ I'd rock that just like it sits. No need to do anything further IMO. Bad Ass.

I'm out as my son got selected for a spot at an invitational event! He's been doing great in his first year. http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah133/PDQS4/Misc%20Fun/OY6A5785%20copy%20web_zps4xwxykdq.jpg

I appreciate your confidence in my abilities to change the world, but that's a task that neither you me, nor the next POTUS or even King Obama himself can do. Changing the behavior of people starts from within. Thus my ENTIRE POINT throughout this who discussion. Those people have to bring about the change. We all have to overcome our own objections and challenges in life. Others can help but the heavy lifting comes from within. It's what i'm referring to when I say they need to look in the mirror. Step 1, look in mirror. Step 2 might be to make a commitment to ones self to be a part of the solution to your own problems. 3 might be to seek a solutions vs trying to place blame. Noble steps I think. YMMV. My judgements like this are based on what they, the family, are showing me. I see a son that was killed and an immediate finger pointing to 7/11 with a lawyer crying out for big Justice $$. That was a pretty swift and IMO telling reaction. Again, just making the call from my vantage point based on the actions they are taking. I can tell you my points will never likely be to place blame on the rest of society and look to gov't to fix it for everyone. To me, I stand by the fact that there were a lot of people in that 7/11 situation that didn't give a fuck and to me that tells a lot about their personal values. No need to spend years contemplating it. WWCRD if they saw a guy get knocked the F-out and fall into the street? I can guarantee I wouldn't pick his pockets and leave the dude in the gutter. Doubt you would either. Step 1 might be for parents everywhere to have this type of discussion with their family or friends or loved ones.

I think I noted it already that they don't address the real issues. They focus on is creating drama around race but they skirt the real issues of responsibility of anyone else but authority figures. Double standards in play...they get to play the race card but I'm casually racist if I call them out or just be blunt. Sorry but no, they haven't earned my respect. Once they address the actions of those committing the crimes in all those situations they march on then perhaps they will. Until then I will see them as whiners unwilling to address both sides of the fact. Always a finger to point at authority but never at the reason the authorities were called out. That's cowardly if you ask me. [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming][/url] this isn't a case of blaming a girl for being raped for looking hot. Sorry but inner city punks committing felonies and fighting with cops win the prizes they deserve. Let's not stray from reality here. Again, the 7/11 victim wasn't killed by other "victims" who then get to walk. He was let down by ALL those people yet not surprisingly the family is going to go after the store with for money. would agree but it depends on the particular section of the block in those communities too. there is still the role of the community and each member of it in those areas. more need to stand up and do something vs just sitting back and playing the victim card. You're right economics is the root cause. Drug dealers have to care for their families and those families aren't doing anything about what they know is happening. I agree and for the last time, color doesn't matter and since we agree on that point, tear up the race card already. No need to keep trying to play it. We can agree to disagree on the segregation thing. That was over 60 years ago. Even my father when he was alive had moved past that. Move on. It's not judgemental. I read the stories and cases. They chase after inflammatory situations and cases without looking at the facts. I'm generalizing around the bad guys not all guys. That kid who was shot 18 times carrying a knife....that's the case I'm referencing. I agree, the cop was out of line with 18 rounds. Cop brought that upon himself. However, not one word was brought up about the fuck-stick kid and his parents who did nothing but cry lawsuit then settled for $6M and disappeared. I hate even calling them parents given they never parented that kid. The kid was a victim of shitty parents not the cops. Why mention castration when all it takes is two people to actually make a sound decision just to not have a fucking kid. Hmmm.....I'm dirt poor, so are you, let's bang and make babies. Great idea!! People bring shit upon themselves. I know you know what I'm talking about. Let's not be silly pretending otherwise. they don't have to share my common sense family values or the values of others in the community; clearly many don't. However, there are expectations society has of them and they own those regardless. Want to have 6 kids from 3 daddies, living in the ghetto and not parent any of them, then don't go expecting them to raise themselves to be productive citizens because history and numbers show they will likely end up in jail or dead. When that happens maybe those same people should remember the choices they made the moment they conceived that kid. I agree. Again, not asking anyone to live by my values....just own up and OWN the choices THEY make in life. That's all; pretty simple. They can raise their kids as their wish, but if those kids grow up to be a punk and get shot by the cops, they best look in the mirror before they say a fucking word about blaming anyone. not sure where you pulled wrongful death from but in the case of Ferguson, that kid won the stupid prize he was going for in the dumb version of life he was living. well in America we do have some pretty liberal social views and the right to live as we wish. Great, I am not stating any one way anyone needs to live but regardless of how people choose to live I stand by the fact that I do very strong support the statement that THEY need to OWN the choices THEY make. Want to live a gangster life then be prepared to live that life right up until you die. I see it from their side......it's all one-sided. They choose to avoid the responsibility of those on all but one side of the argument. Pretty clear really.

The answer is to address the people involved and I agree, do it a lot. It doesn't take generations either. Families today need to sit down and talk with one another about what they do day to day. I'm sure you do it day to day with your kids and with those around you. You don't get to an answer by not looking in the mirror first. The dude in the 7/11 video wasn't let down by the cops or 7/11. Last I checked it was the people all around him, numbers of them, that did that to him. The family here is gold digging for a settlement. The core issue is family and personal values. Either people have them or as seen in the 7/11 story/video, they clearly don't. makes me wonder what those living in that community think about it. Does their give-o-shit meter register enough for them to do anything?

My puzzle pieces, your puzzle pieces; at the end of the day my statements around personal responsibility do stand because we are of one society and one puzzle board. Responsibility and accountability and the need for everyone to live the life of a productive citizen not a life of crime is in play no matter what community you live in or what type of family raised you. Call it incorrect if you wish and believe all you want that it doesn't apply to them but in America, it does. Time for people to begin caring for themselves and to stop living off others. Fuck the Bern. I don't believe we should be giving breaks to people who come from the inner city or have to deal with different challenges day to day. Their lives don't matter more than anyone elses and vise-versa. Do they desire to be a part of a greater society or not? Are they willing to put forth what it takes to do so? Rules apply equally. Choice is theirs but so long as they remember who made that choice. I'm tired of people crying foul and that shit happens to them when in return I'd much rather look at what's happening because of them. are they bringing good things to life or bad? As noted earlier, the fact that if you break the rules, you pay the consequences and that rule applies to ALL. If those same people think the problems in their life are going to fix themselves, then good luck to them as my give-o-shit meter doesn't register for them. There are no guarantees in life sorry; no life isn't fair and that's okay, but every single day people have choices and opportunity; choose wisely and work smart not just hard. Let's see if that family of the 7/11 guy does anything to the actual people responsible for what happened to their son. Let's see if they actually invest any of the settlement they may get from 7/11 in anything community related.

All Lives Matter. /the race bullshit. They don't want to end the race bullshit which is why they focus on it. This isn't 1950 or 1850 and it's not just blacks we're talking about. Poor marketing IMO but then it's no secret what they are really about. They will continually fuel the fire of race with more fuel. They get no credence from me because of that though. what I mean by that is the tendency to play the race card in a world drowning in political correctness to a fault. I'm not blaming the victim, I'm telling the victim they are a prisoner of their own doing more often that of others doing. Any inequality they are seeing can best be served first by them. Time for everyone to man-up. some do, lots don't. the latter is the focus of my beef. agree. My response to BLM is one of dislike for them trying to continually make race the card in play when you have already agreed with my point that it's one of economics not race. It's also their continual pointing of fingers at others vs looking at their own communities and the people within in them the actions in question that often play the major role in what they are trying to draw attention to. I get pissed off when I see BLM bitching about a cop shooting a kid when that kid was born by someone who has never parented in their life, doesn't give two shits about the kid, the day after he's shot is suing the man for money and really never knew where he was at 11pm let alone having taught him a thing about social values or personal responsibility or that robbing stores, and shooting at cops or pulling a knife on them is a pretty stupid thing. not even close. just pointing out the fact that if you can't take care of your own life then think twice about having a kid. keeping it simple my friend. Don't confuse corruption with common sense family values. Don't try and push the conversation there either. I'm not talking about block watch, I'm talking about communities of good people looking out for one another. I don't' think twice about telling my neighbors kid to not run int he street after a ball, nor do I bat an eye if he/she talks to my son about he importance owning up to breaking a car window by accident should it happen. They is whoever you would like that isn't taking personal responsibility for their actions and instead points to others first. The mom crying foul at the cop who shot her kid who robbed a store, slapped the owner and wrestled with a cop for his gun is a fine example. I've never said the system is equal. Nor will it likely ever be. That equality isn't in play for the poor bastard in the 7/11 video. It wasn't the system that knocked him out, robbed him as he lay in the street, or left him in the gutter or just casually without any care ran him over with a cab. That would be on the "them" that I speak of. ironically the family and kids in that portion of the movie were quite responsible. by house in order I mean their own life and family, not a building. Cant' tell if you're just being silly or not though. ^^ really? seems like they come out of the woodwork at every opportunity not just the ones that you speak of.

What consequences they faced with stop and frisk? I go through it all the time at the airport due to the metal arch supports in my dress shoes. Not a big deal. Stop and frisk was based on the concept of preventing small crimes to create an atmosphere of order and lawfulness that would in turn retard more serious crimes and bad guys from hanging out there. No different than when tons of police are at a ball game the likelihood of stupid people causing trouble nearly disappears. Giuliani and his tough policies are what cleaned up NYC. Now that it's good people are tending to forget how it got to be good. Let's watch as the policies soften and the crime returns. No different than Iraq and all the other Middle Eastern places that were once ruled with a heavy hand for a solid reason. Look where those place are without their leaders they once had. No condoning their ways, but the facts still stand that once you leave the cages open be prepared for madness. To the above my point is simply these parents or people raising kids as I find it hard to call many of them parents since they do nearly no "parenting" is that both them and their kids still have to be contributing citizens that stay out of trouble and become part of society. If they choose to be different and cause trouble then they will pay the price. Good news is these kids are in the US and I don't have to face the lawlessness and disorder of the above places. Again, these kids are in the US where regardless of their trust level of whites they aren't killed or punished for simply existing. They are being punished or shot and killed by cops both white and black for doing stupid shit. See my post just a couple pages back linking to the Baltimore cop slapping the black kid. Black on black violence and I'm sure that kid in school getting bitch slapped wasn't just minding his own business. I still LOL remembering the mother bitch slapping her kid after catching him during the Baltimore riots. How many commenters supported her doing that. Finally! To many however probably encouraged their kids to go down there though or just plain didn't give a shit. They call themselves parents....sad. We argue situations all day long. In the end, a South Side Chicago kid knows better than to carry a gun, do drugs, rob people, participate in gang violent, skip school, run from cops, fight with cops, etc. To let them off the hook for just being in South Side Chicago is lowering the bar and giving them an excuse. Sorry but I'm not having it. Their parents know better, their communities as a whole know better, etc. There is no excuse for poor behaviors. Those behaviors and responsibility will always be on them/each of us. All lives matter not just black lives. Let's see if those communities and their people actually give a shit enough to bring change from within vs crying foul when they choose not to.

I don't feel anyone needs to be on the receiving end of either good or bad in order to make a personal decision around their own actions. Whether it's me living the dream in the burbs surfer CR or living in the hood trying to get by in life, shouldn't EVERYONE regardless of their situation strive to be productive members of society vs thugs? In fact it's just as easy for anyone not just me or you to see and understand the proper way to live in society. Not doubt having role models in important, but we in society can't allow such behavior's to exist or be tolerated or given "excuses." Just because kids have been raised in the hood. They know better and I'm sorry but they are still in need of being responsible. They don't get to live by lower standards just because they come from the hood. Laws are laws and rules are rules. I don't believe they get to be held to any different standards. Time for lowering the bar to end. The bar is the bar and you need to meet that bar regardless. See that's that part they don't like....they don't like being held to the same standards as everyone else. They think it's okay for kids to rob stores, wrestle with cops, charge at them when a gun is involved and NOT be shot....really? Sorry but you win stupid prizes when you do stupid things. To my point, these "families" or really individuals need to NOT have kids if they aren't in a position to raise them properly. Sorry, but that's a personal responsibility that yes begins with the PARENTS. The resulting kids are in a crappy situation, but they aren't DUMB and YES I do expect that they understand the concepts of right and wrong and personal responsibility. Those are pretty basic underlying concepts in life that even my dog understands. She pisses in the house and she is punished. Took her all of about 4-6 weeks to figure it out. Human beings aren't dumb. I see the point you're trying to make but you're giving them the exact excuse and mulligan in life that's keeping them in the hole. It's complete BS that they don't know there's another word out there. This is 2016, no one is in a bubble anymore. They have complete exposure to the world around them and the expectations the world has for EVERYONE. It's time that people begin to CHOOSE to act accordingly vs being given every excuse under the sun to get away with bad behaviors and finger pointing. Hand them a mirror and explain that the problem isn't in that outside world they pretend not to know anything about. I get patted down at the airport and by cops just like anyone. Anyone with a CHL is going to be recognized by the cops either in a good or bad way but certainly in a cautious way as they know the likelihood is you might have a firearm on you. I travel tons and go through more security than most here. I've been stopped in poor neighborhoods as cops likely wonder if I"m there looking for drugs vs simply being on a sales call. So yes, I have. Not a big deal. I don't suspect you're justifying their actions but you're leaving the same door open that I mentioned earlier. The open door to their excuses and yes they will likely take that easy door / excuse vs change. Path of least resistance. I'm not a hater of profiling. I believe in it actually. Cops are here to serve and protect and I've been on the receiving end of PO'd cops during traffic stops. I also recognize why the are "amped up" and understand that. THey don't know me, if I'm armed or why I was doing what I was doing. I also recognize that being combative and argumentative isn't going to end well so I make pretty informed decisions around my actions. I've never wrestled for their gun, never run from them, never tried to hide drugs, etc. I think for the most part I've been pretty responsible and accountable for my actions and it's no secret that it's worked out better than doing otherwise.

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yes and my point is filled with sarcasm around the name of the group. it is pretty ironic that there's a group embolden enough to call themselves "black" lives matter. their concerns begin from within so perhaps they need to go march near this 7/11. You and I can agree to disagree to the level of inequality and race as it relates to police force. Are cops tough dicks at times, yes. Are they more so in rat-ridden areas of town regardless of the color of the rat. IMO people hide behind race too much. Perhaps, but then they don't face the same situations in the suburbs as they do the ghettos of the world. If someone doesn't want to get shot by a cop, then don't wrestle with or pull a weapon on a cop. Color doesn't matter to a LEO when you're pointing a gun at them or fighting to get theirs. Agree. what those communities and people, no matter what their color can do to change that is act like decent citizens. sorry, but I have zero cares about a punk running the streets at 11pm stealing stuff and fighting with cops. if he ends up dead so be it. his family and his own actions failed him not the cops. they are doing their best to make it home themselves and doing a thankless job in the shittiest parts of town. Parents need to actually do their job to raise responsible kids that don't go getting themselves killed. Pretty simple. I would even argue most in their situations shouldn't even be having kids. If they are so poor and without ability to care for themselves, then don't have children. Again, they have a personal responsibility and need to make some better decisions. That's on them not anyone else. Yes and no. Chicken or egg, and IMO the actions of the community need to change so that the cops won't be needed in the first place. Again, personal responsibility and they have none. In turn, yeah, sometimes they aren't going to like the consequences. I'm beyond sick and tired of people always trying to game the system, blame others and cry foul. It's time the bullshit excuses stops and people are smacked across the face with real-world truth that they need to get their own house in order if they want to see a better life. If they want respect then EARN IT. Don't want to see your kids killed by cops then raise them to be productive citizens that don't put themselves in dumbass situations.

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It's time that communities and people start holding themselves accountable, take personal responsibility and being to act like human beings and decent citizens. These people are fucking animals/rats and are the ones who need deported out of the US.

Evidently black lives don't matter.....especially given the way he was treated after being knocked out. People just leave him there, do nothing to the dick who punched him, rifled through the dudes pockets and left him in the gutter to be run over by a Taxi! (video on nightly news is shocking) Really? I'm speechless after seeing it. Amazing but not surprising that the family is going after 7/11 for money. Guy hasn't been dead one day and they are suing for money. Never-mind the rest of the community and the fact that they treated this guy like a pile of dog shit. Their own community they clearly don't feel black lives matter. Sad for all of humanity. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-bartender-death-lawsuit-0421-20160420-story.html

^^ regret never seeing him. was never a huge fan but I can appreciate his success and how he went about it. I agree that he had some true talent. Banged a number of hot women too.

better yet Keith Richards