Your completely avoiding the whole thing here paul. You want to use "Tuned" cars etc, and CHOOSE the track you tune the car on. You can make a 1100 HP Charger B Class, Rape straight away courses, you can make a 1500LB Elan rape B cass courses that have tight turns, im not trying to tune a car so you can choose what were doing. Thats why im trying to use stock cars, with collisions off, so we can see whos better.