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That would be OFF THE HOOK.

Are you saying that everyone with nice cars are gay? Because... I just... I don't know... Don't see it? I don't see it. Does anyone else see it? Moving on. What was the topic about again?

Depends on the color of the car... MAKE SURE you tell them the color of the car!!

Huh, I did negate that!! Thank you - I think that was the example I was most looking for... And yesss the V6 in the new Camaro carries DOHC's. Turbo's are probably not that far off either, as manufacturers are more likely to find cheaper and more economical ways to beef up horsepower... Could be interesting!!!

Was your outfit union by chance? Just curious because I work with benefits for unions.... at any rate, I'll ask a few computer guys I know if they're hiring. And WOW, cutting the low man on the totem pole, and what gets me is you had 13 YEARS there... unbelievable.

So they were actually debating this, huh? Innnnteresting. It would be an entirely different car... I keep telling people we are going to see the return of the four cylinder Mustang, too...

Come to think of it I don't think they'd axe the 'Vette either... But here's a thought - if tougher EPA standards are actually put in place, they may bring the 'Vette back... with a four-banger! Then again, we DO have V6's putting out V8 range horsepower now (ex. the V6 in the 350Z, and the V8 in the current Mustang GT). My .02 cents...

Wow really, really good stuff on the rims... I had a set of aluminum alloys on my old Mustang and I ate them to crap with curb rash. Wish I had the know-how to fix 'em up!! Sorry to hear about the Brembo's... those things work well with the GT500, that's for sure!!

Sorry to hear too... Mark what do you do out there in W. Jeff?

I highly doubt they would discontinue the Corvette. They are GREAT cars, and offer tons of performance for the money. Lets watch Pontiac go and then see what happens next... They did back the Camaro Z28, but that's the worst I would expect for a while.

I know I don't show myself around CR much... but I'll bet there. Hm. Apparently have to update my signature too. - Gabe

Okay it runs. Fuel pump, filter, relay were replaced, and we replaced the gas for good measure. Thanks for the help. Gabe

Apparently the fuel relay is the one located closest to the driver in the glove box. Had I known that the relays were interchangeable I would have swapped it with the other one to see if it made a difference. Since we didn't figure that out soon enough we dropped the tank, and it doesn't matter anyways because the pump was shot. Basically we verified power coming to the fuel pump at the connector, and then power through the connector to the pump itself inside the tank. It was good there, and the only thing left after that is the pump. Better damn well be the pump. If it's not the pump? Maybe I'll... I don't know maybe drop the tank again and a drop lit zippo down there and blow the hole thing sky high. Thanks for your help yesterday, CJ. I'll keep you posted.

Well... we managed to get the fuel tank out actually really easily. So, it's out. Next step? We hooked up the multimeter to the connection leading to the fuel pump, it read about 8.3 volts or so. Okay, don't bench test the pump, meaning don't connect a positive lead right? Got it. Now... I need to trace down the fuel relay. One manual says it's on the firewall on the passenger side... another one says it's in the glove compartment. Where is this thing?

I see... looks like the ground wire is doing well. I just got the tank down far enough to start looking at stuff... taking a dinner break and then I'll be back. I'm going to definitely check the wires. Taking the tank down without removing the bed is doing well :-) Gabe

Haha yeah I can almost see that... I have the straps off right now and am working on the dropping the tank. As far as I can tell the relay is in the glove box too. I'll see if I can't get enough room to drop the tank to get to the connectors.

Yesss have the multimeter. There are five points? on the relay where do I/how do I test these?

Okay got the fuel pressure tester/gauge before the fuel filter, after the fuel pump. There's nothing, not even an inkling. Before I drop the fuel tank, do you know how to test relays, and any idea where exactly they're located? There's a couple of relays in the glove compartment and three mounted on the firewall in the engine bay. Input appreciated. Gabe

Alright alright fuel pressure.

Yah getting spark. It will actually run for a few seconds after you feed starter fluid through the intake. Everything is connected good on the starter, for sure... if I missed something there it wouldn't even be turning over. So, I'm past the starter - it turns over... now I have to figure out why it cranks but doesn't run.

Couple of things are eating at me - how could the truck go from running (while the starter was wearing out), to cranking and not running after a new starter was put in? That doesn't make sense. I can understand a clogged filter, but if that was the case the truck would be stuttering (and wanting to catch), and if the fuel pump was going bad it would again, run rough. The truck is cranking but just not catching - at all. So there has to be some kind of fuse or relay, or something, that interrupted this process all of the sudden, know what I mean? Honestly, does that make sense??

I kind of thought that too... he tried to get it running last Friday when it was warm out but it didn't make a difference. I was hoping it would have been warm enough to thaw the lines. Still a chance though... he's going to get it in a garage this week. Okay... I'll see about getting that gas out of there. I think it's a slim chance too considering that he put the gas dry in there, but like you said, if it's almost empty might as well... and start cheap and move on to the more expensive replacements. I'll keep you all posted... here's some other ponders - I know on Ford's they have the fuel shut-off's. Do GM vehicles have this? Past that I think there's a fuse for the fuel pump, I'll check that. Next to that I want to replace the fuel filter and if any of this doesn't work... start checking the fuel pump I guess??

It's a 2.2L. Fuel issue definitely. This truck belongs to a friend - he says he can hear the fuel pump. The tank was almost empty when we changed out the starter and he had some gas in a fuel can that he threw in there after. I want to say that there's some condensation in the fuel and he added some dry gas, but it didn't help. I want to say the fuel filter is the next step, and move on from there. I won't be able to get under it until Tuesday or so but I want a game plan before I start. Don't know when the fuel filter was last replaced; haven't checked the pressure yet.

So threw the new starter in and it cranks, but won't start. Can get it to run for a few seconds feeding starter fluid in the intake, but won't run without it. The truck was sitting for about a week or so until we got the new starter in it. Rob - thought I'd add that this a red truck. Any ideas?

Yeahh this is a little late but you all have the right idea. http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/web_sites/courts/ This is a website for most county's profiles. You can find the links to do record searches here from any county. For example, click on Franklin and it will lead you to the Franklin County Clerk of Courts (the link was posted by some else above). Also, if you need clarification on someone, call the court - it's all public record. Happy hunting.