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LOL at Elon asking WFP to show how the $6 billion to end world hunger would be spent.

 

WFP would never want to end world hunger

Y'all want to rail against CNN's shitty reporting and people being mislead by the media, here's your chance.

In the interview on CNN, the WFP director said Billionaires need to "step up now, on a one-time basis". "$6 billion to help 42 million people that are literally going to die if we don't reach them. It's not complicated," he added.

CNN then twisted that into a headline that said "2% of Elon Musk's wealth could help solve world hunger, says director of UN food scarcity organization" (see same link as above). Which isn't exactly what Beasley was saying. It's also not exactly wrong -- technically any amount of money would "help."

Musk and others than twisted that further to say that the WFP thinks $6B can "end world hunger," which is something that absolutely nobody said.

eta: It's actually worse than I thought, CNN fucked the headline up even more from the get go and had to issue a correction.

He called their bluff

And then he called Elon's bluff right back.

russia isn't communist??..I must have missed it..when did it become a democracy ?

Like I said, 30 years ago.

putin isn't a commie???

No...

The dems in congress are really having a hard time between the moderates and the communist socialists .. oh wait they want to be called progressive..

 

I guess we should ask how is that working in cuba & russia

The policies "socialist" Democrats are pushing for would bring us more in line with places like Norway or Germany.

Russia hasn't been communist in, like 30 years.

China is actually communist and while I wouldn't want to live there, they've certainly been taking us to the mat on the world stage.

If everyone is to be taxed everyone should be taxed equally. Set a percentage and stick to it.

 

"No breaks! Santa Claus doesn't give any breaks!"

Thief.

folks paying ... no taxes ... isnt a problem.

Agree to disagree on this, I guess.

thoughts on unrealized gains tax?

It's a scheme designed to tackle this problem:

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never-before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax

Thoughts on that problem?

Anybody read more than the headline? Seems like perhaps not?

 

If so, anybody have better suggestions?

Doesn't seem like something the government can actually do anything about. The ports are already working overtime trying to get everything unloaded, they're the busiest they've ever been. The container ships are sitting there bleeding money because they're not able to take their next contract. The people who own the goods are bleeding money because they can't sell what's in the containers.

The federal government coming in and financially leaning on people to do what they're already desperately trying to do seems idiotic.

About the only play the government could make here is to maybe throw out a bunch of customs checks in order to speed the process, but I'm guessing that's not even the bottleneck right now. So I don't think there's anything Biden could be doing to help, but this certainly isn't going to help.

I wish Trump were still on Twitter so he could tweet to his followers about how great the economy is right now.

Oh, but he did!

I just chuckled at the irony of lambasted ALL Trump supporters then complaining that it seems like that happens to you in this thread.

I get that, I really do. But I'm not millions of people, I'm just one poster. I even use my real name here. There's no need to paint me with a broad brush, I'm actually on the skinny side.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I've never said you were unreasonable that I recall.

You say I attack people and sling shit. Is that reasonable in your eyes?

It was a genuine question. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think my posts reflect frequent nuance. Do I see the irony in saying all Trump supporters are gullible rubes while bemoaning a lack of nuance in politics? From a certain point of view, yes. From another point of view, this is a message board and I'd rather save my nuance for things that require more nuance, and I'm not going to lose sleep about painting Trump supporters with a broad brush. I'm only human, and I'm sure you make generalizations from time to time.

You're using the most recent conversation as a small sample. I and others have spoken of the bigger picture.

I know, but every time you and I actually dissect an issue or an exchange you seem to soften your opinion in the moment. And then a couple pages later I'm back to being an unreasonable caricature. *shrug*

Do you not see the slight hypocrisy here? Even a little bit?

And in some cases, it doesn't even take a couple of pages.

Inflation

2017 - 2.1%

2018 - 2.4%

2019 - 1.8%

2020 - 1.2%

2021 - 4.05% (first 9 months, last 5 have all been over 5%, highest since 1991)

 

Gas Sept

2017 - $2.64

2018 - $2.83

2019 - $2.62

2020 - $2.18

2021 - $3.17

This... doesn't seem to support your theory that corporations passed their tax savings on to the consumer.

So you chose to vote for, in your opinion, the lesser of two evils but back the guy as if he's God's gift to America. If he's doing, again according to what you wrote here, just slightly better than mediocre why all the arguing in here? Why not just go, "yeah, he's doing some stupid shit, but I think overall he's doing better than Trump."? Why all the shit throwing? Why is it that every time someone points out a Biden faux pas you immediately jump on them and bash Trump...and sometimes them? As you would say: I'm genuinely curious. You definitely SEEM to be a "yuge" supporter and fan.

Point out examples, by all means. I don't think I've acted the way you're suggested I act.

Look at this exchange for example. Mace does what Mace does, which is evidently get all his information from Yahoo! News and post random links here like everyone's favorite grandpa (hi Mace!). Even though he posted the link without any commentary, Mallard made the (probably correct) assumption that Mace didn't think taxpayers should be wasting money on Biden's beach house, so he pointed out that, you know, it's par for the course, because we taxpayers spent a lot of money for Trump to play golf.

Then 00TypeR says that he remembers "lots of outrage" about Trump. Well, I didn't bring up Trump, and I have no particular interest in defending Biden here, but I remember things different and the situations are different. And so that's all I did -- I addressed 00TypeR's memory about a particular bit of political discourse from 4 or 5 years ago, and how it doesn't equate to whatever dumb thing we're criticizing Sleepy Joe for on a Monday, because he's not the same level of dumbshit that Trump was.

So anyway, I guess I do that and you and some others here think I'm attacking people left and right as a brainless leftist, because there's no room for any nuance in politics and I must be every liberal stereotype in the books instead of someone who just really doesn't want to live in a country where Trump's particular brand of bullshit becomes the norm.

*IF* I were actually going to address the article Mace posted, I would say that being POTUS is hard, and that person deserves vacations and leisure time, and the amount of money we spend on secret service protection is a drop in the ocean, and I don't give 2 shits about any of it, and I wish people would stop talking about it. And, I'm guessing, you're 100% in agreement with all of that.

eta: Just want to add, I can say, in plain English, that I think Biden is slightly worse than a mediocre president. I'm fairly disappointed so far, because my low expectations haven't even been met. That is my position, I'm willing to say it, full stop. No trickery. But 2 pages from now everyone is going to ignore that and act like I have a Biden tattoo on my face. Because politics, and because CR.

I agree and in the same breath will say the same about Biden's voters.

Let's address the false equivalency, because I said Trump supporters and you said Biden voters. I voted for Biden but he's doing slightly worse than a mediocre job and I'm willing to admit that. I really don't have any particular beef with people who, likewise, held their nose and voted for Trump because he was the "better of two bad options" or whatever.

But people fucking love Trump, and they are the dumbest fucking people. They still have signs up all over the place, I still see MAGA hats, they still have Trump rallies. People worship that dumbfuck.

Come on, you and I need to live in the same reality on this. There is no Biden equivalent of the Trump phenomenon. You cannot say they are the same.

It's almost as if politicians, ya know...lie. Weird.

Trump's not a politician, he's a businessman. I like him because he's not politically correct. He says what he means and means what he says, and doesn't sugarcoat it. Drain the swamp. Drain the swamp.

Just admit that Trump supporters were gullible rubes, the dumbest voters America could muster, and let's move on.

I sure could afford a lot more things and toys last year.

Do you have any data, or shit, even anecdotes, maybe about things that you bought post-2018 after the Trump tax cuts that were cheaper than the were pre-2018?

Or are you just saying that you personally had more money because the government increased the deficit in order to lower your tax burden?

I seem to remember lots of outrage during Trump also

Not outrage, just exasperation. See, Trump rose to political prominence by attacking Obama for every dumb thing that came into his head on Twitter, from being a secret Kenyan citizen to playing golf or basketball or for flying to Hawaii (where, you know, he was actually from). Trump also said during the campaign that if HE were elected, he would be too busy presidenting to play golf at all, let alone how often that bastard Obama hit the links.

And then he gets elected and he spends way more time golfing than Obama ever did. All the shit he scored points with his braindead followers by attacking Obama for, he did the exact same things.

So we throw our hands up in exasperation.

Anyway, I'm sure y'all can dig up all of Biden's tweets where he said he wouldn't ever play golf or take vacation because he'd be too busy being the Best President Ever, or all the tweets Biden made attacking Trump for playing golf. Eh?

Man, I gotta say the stance looks horrible from the front and rear...way too wide but there's a ton going on under that MINI skin. Cool to see it kinda running and driving.

I saw this video last week and thought the same thing. All that work and it just looks bouncy and cheap.

So in this case Nancy would be the "handler".

You and Mace aren't making your point particularly well, and Kerry is being obtuse about it anyway.

Any executive is going to be surrounded by assistants, advisors, and speech writers, and no executive is going to be surrounded by more people than the president. So yeah, he's "handled," in the sense that a team of people tell him where to go, who he's meeting with, what he's wearing, how he's getting there, and in many cases, they're putting either crib notes or a straight up pre-written speech into his hand.

At the end of Reagan's presidency, there's a good chance he had no idea where he was at any given point and was just a talking head for this apparatus.

The argument you and Mace are trying to make is that Biden is currently at Reagan levels of puppetry. I don't think there's any evidence of this, which makes this a baseless accusation, but that's what you're trying to say.

People said the same thing about Bush. I didn't buy it then, either. Trump was a puppet about half the time -- you could 100% tell when he was regurgitating what his swarm of handlers wanted him to say, and when he'd go off script. Some people liked that about him, that he would "get real" from time to time. Of course, every time he went off script he sounded like an idiot, so your MMV.

Had you watched the video it might have encouraged you to start a discussion on the contents of the video itself...or maybe not. lol

Well, for you, I clicked on it. I don't know who this random Pfizer employee is. I don't know when this "secret undercover" footage was recorded. I don't know why James O'Keefe is ambushing him at dinner.

It made me very uncomfortable and I closed it after 30 seconds. I can't handle cringe videos.

I guess that's where I expected a discussion on the subject matter in the vid and the manner in which it was handled to take place.

If the subject matter you want to discuss is the differences between the naturally occurring antibodies that result from a prior covid infection and those that occur from vaccination, we can start with this blog post from the director of the NIH. As far as I know Dr. Collins was never forced to pay a 6-figure settlement for producing intentionally misleading videos.

Do you have any thoughts or opinions on what Dr. Collins says? What would you like to discuss about it?