Slowbalt

I don't have the car but I do have the LNF engine in mine and I have to say that is a remarkable piece of engineering. I don't think you will be happy with a non turbo if you want decent power (more than 177hp) but the turbo models respond VERY well to mods so long as you can tune it with HP tuners or the like. If you do not tune it, any mods will still make 260/260 after some driving. There is a turbo fanatic in southern ohio that turbos and tunes mustangs all day and he drives a SKY RL. He ran low 12's with a tune, intake and exhaust.

If you have already done a full reset (wiping the device and reloading software through BBDTM) than it is most likely the radio inside going out. If you have an extended warranty it would cover it as long as no damage to the blackberry.

Phil and I rolled at the track! Anything goes at MCIR.....

Lottery = tax on people that can't do math

Very nice to hear. Thanks for the link.

Good question. Probably news of the world out there taking the pictures....

I have never raised a high needs child but I can understand that it can be difficult. I think you have to provide the most nurturing environment you can and reward positive actions and discourage negative ones. If you are doing these things, that is your job as a parent and you are being successful.

The problem is that you repeat yourself. You keep saying that I am wrong but you never say why and when you do give an explanation, you simply reply with something that is so ambiguous it doesn't even mean anything. Here, I'll break it down for you. 1: Does God exist? If yes, why do you think so? If no, why do you think not? 1(a): Can the existence of God be proven or disproven scientifically or logically? 1:Probably not. No evidence. 1(a)To the extent of the impact god has on the physical world. 2: How do you think the universe was created? (i.e., Not just the big bang, but what cause it) 2(a): Is there a sound basis for the theory of intelligent design? 2:The big bang theory is the best explanation for the creation of the universe. We could speculate all day on the cause but long story short there is no evidence at this point. If you say god, where did that come from. Everyone is just guessing here. 2(a)There must be a designer for intelligent design to happen. No designer, no sound reason to believe in it. 3: If God exists as an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent being why does evil exist? 3:It doesn't but if it does and did, it would need to be a very, very cruel God.

Your thread was not titled, "The Philosophy of Religion" and you also recommended topics to "get us started" so I apologize that I did not view this thread as narrowmindedly as yourself. I was simply viewing it as a thread to discuss Religion/Philosophy. An "All powerful/Omnipotent and an all knowing/Omniscient God is completely incompatible with the idea of Free Will. Free Will being that I am able to make a choice that I choose. Anselm's God/God of the Bible *but not quite Jesus, knows everything including each and every choice that I make, before I make them. (I can say this because of the Omniscient clause, not by having some personal knowledge of God)Keep in mind this also means that He/She/It chooses to create me knowing everything I will do as well as every outcome of my actions. You say I have choices but God already knew them, before I was even born. No matter what choice I think I make, God would have already known it and chose to let me be created to make it. If you say that God doesn't have these powers I ask you how you know this? This is not a far stretch from being able to hear every prayer, stop the passing of time, or at least the rotation of the planets according to the bible, or any other super power you can come up with. God would need to exist outside of time and space in order to create time and space. This made more silly by idea that God is eternal Insanity continues by God existing outside of material influence (whats the point in believing in something having no effect on the physical world?) All of this rubbish stems from quasi intellectual philosophy from the bible or other religious text. You must first believe in the truth of the holy text for its words to become facts and not a story. If we are to discuss make believe phantoms we must define them. This way, we can discuss them. Is it the new testament Christian God? Hindu Gods? Hebrew God? etc. All you said before was some foolishness like "Major gods like .....God, oh yeah, and Zeus too." What does that even mean? Zeus had much different powers than the God of the Christian bible if that is god you were referring to.... (you are never clear or definitive in your answers, only snarky and pompous). If we are to discuss the powers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster or any other gods we have to know which gods we are talking about and where we get this information that we know about them. Is it from the bible or the textbook? Can other people see it and/ or confirm it? Or does it just come from within.... Further evidence of you contradicting or just becoming whimsical with your logic is the notion that you are not necessarily arguing from a Theist's point of view. Anselm's God which you at least partially agreed to, would be much greater if it could intervene in the real, material, day to day world. Any supernatural god that can effect the material world is Theistic. I could go along with a Deistic worldview but I feel there is far, far too much evidence against a Theistic force in the world. So again, you will need to define your God, what it's powers are, and then we can have a nonsensical but logical conversation about what this hypothetical god could allow us to do or not do. This is a good description of my thoughts of the subjects of Free Will and Theism, :

50% isn't worth it in my opinion. What matters is what YOU like since you are the one that will be living with it. I have 15% on the front windows and 5% on the back and I have been pulled over a few times for other things and never even hassled about the tint.

Since obviously we are not getting anywhere with this lameness I will propose a new topic: Civilization (as defined by the growth of cities and importation of resources) is unsustainable. Every day, Civilization causes more damage than good to both human and non human life. The sooner it is removed, the better chance those left have of survival. It is a moral duty to bring about the destruction of Civilization. See what I did there? I provided premises and a conclusion that can be discussed. Both the premise and conclusion are falsifiable through logic and reasoning. That is what an argument is about. Not just replying, "You don't understand my nonsense and you are arrogant but I will not provide any reasons why you are incorrect".

I'm not mad in the slightest but it is not a debate when definitions of words are constantly changing and there is no understood definitions of what the debate is about, lol. What do you believe and why do you believe it? Are you arguing for the existence of God? Are you arguing that Evil exists? Lets define it and then we can discuss it. The God of the bible can do anything from creating existence to stopping the motion of the planets, so what definition of God are you using? If you continue with Anselm's a being of which nothing greater can be thought, there are many problems because the being would be greater if it could do the things that you say it cannot. Define your terms and we can discuss them.

There is no point in continuing this discussion when you just resort to calling anything I say contradictory and arrogant. If you would like to have a real discussion with concrete terms I would be happy to do so but you sir come off arrogant when you just plopping what people say without giving any examples of why it is incorrect or contradictory. Your example of evil involved deer, which last time I checked is considered an animal. I asked you to provide an example OUTSIDE of the animal kingdom. You also seem to claim that humans are not animals, they are. Nothing I have said is contradictory so if you have a hard time following, maybe you should ask for clarification instead of jumping to conclusions. Im bored with your nonsense. If you want a real debate, let's have one but until then, im not going to waste anymore of my time.

And a working tail light?

It is difficult to have a discussion with undefined or unknown terms. Lets try to be a bit more clear with our discussion please. Since when is God bound by the laws of logic? God created a woman out of a rib bone? A snake that talks? Listens to millions of prayers per second? Come on...... You can't take Anselm's wordplay tomfoolery as a proof or even as a description of God. Just because you can make a coherent sentence out of it, does not mean that it is true. If it were true, a God that could intervene in our lives would be greater than one who couldn't or wouldn't. You may say something like, "Well....how do you know he doesn't intervene in daily life? It would be arrogant to think that YOU know God's plan." Yet here you are telling me that you have access to what God IS???? I know he/she/it doesn't answer prayers because people pray for stuff ALL THE TIME. A person about to be tortured will pray to escape, a person in a wartime situation will pray to live, a person about to be raped will pray to escape, a person dying of hunger will pray for food. Many people have their prayers answered, many do not. The rate of answer always appears to be near the rate of chance. Answered prayers are always something that could have happened whether or not they were prayed for. If evil is not a design of humanity or animals (whatever that means anyway) could you provide an example outside of the animal kingdom so I can understand what you mean by the word "evil"? I placed no limitations on pain. I placed limitations on our understanding it and being able to measure it for comparison. Do you have any evidence or proof of this "equilibrium" of which you speak? I don't find it appropriate for you to tell me to "broaden my view" when you do not know it or understand it. That seems arrogant to me So are you saying that you do not believe in the Christian god? What exactly are you saying here? What do you believe and why do you believe it? Then we can begin an actual discussion instead of playing around with linguistic trickery.

If God is ALL KNOWING and ALL POWERFUL how can one say that "He makes mistakes or doesn't know what one might choose". That does not logically follow the premise. How do I know prayers are unanswered? 35,000 children die EVERY DAY from lack of money to pay for food and water. I'm sure some of them pray...... It always seems that miracles are always something that could have happened anyways. Luckily deer have the ability to avoid fire by simpy moving. Do some die a horrible, fiery death? Probably. Is this evil? Not in the slightest. Death is natural and is part of the natural cycle of life. I have no idea where you get the idea that I am not looking at pain broadly from the limited information you have but what I said is that pain is relative so how can someone say that thier pain is equal to my pain without them being able to FEEL my pain. To my knowledge it is possible to relate to someone elses pain but not to FEEL someone elses pain. I find it difficult to quantify and measure pain for comparison. Why do you believe in the Christian god as opposed to any other of the thousands of gods that are not believed currently? What convinces you of God's existence?

Nice video Kryptok! Thanks for recording.

Political correctness to an extreme. If I don't have arms, I am not going to try to be an arm wrestling champion. People get their feelings hurt way too easily nowadays.

If free will is the idea that I am free to make any choice yet God knows EVERYTHING about me before I am born then what I see as free will is simply the path that God knows I am going to choose. If God knows I will choose it before I have the option of choosing it, I do not see this as free will. It is only God's plan. The bible says God answers prayers and people do pray but they are unanswered. Is God not listening? Does God not care? That was my point but I apologize for the strange wording. Evil does not have to be a counter to good. It could be argued that there is no good and evil (Friedrich Nietzsche anyone?) there are just things that people (animals) do. The motives and the outcomes can be calculated or not. All of this would have to depend on what you mean by "good" (good for who?). Personally I believe in free will to the extent that government and corporations will allow. Other forms of life are the same in my opinion. Depending on what you mean by "cosmic free will" I could agree with that. Things happen. They all have a cause but are not necessarily calculated and planned for a purpose. As far as pain equilibrium, I do not believe there could be one as pain is relative to a point of view. Some people are born with a deficiency to not feel physical pain but I'm sure they can feel emotional pain. Is that the same, different, equal? One person who was raped may not have any issues with it as another may feel that it ruined their life, etc.

The guy with the videos name is Kevin and he is compiling them all into one video. I will post a link once it is available.

Anytime. My only recorded 60' was a 2.6.......FWD FTW haha! I enjoy racing and will race anyone for free. I have no problem Philling up my tank We are working on tracking down the STi guy to grab those vids of the CLOSED COURSE racing.

Don't get all mad Phil. Just some friendly razzing on ya. I certainly remember the night a bit differently but if you can't afford to waste some gas on a friendly run, maybe you should drive something a bit more fuel efficient.

Negative. I was gonna find him on FB but I don't remember his name. I think he said he would be out next weekend though.

Slowbalt = 1 Phil = 0 When's the rematch?

I had a blast last night as well. I can't remember what STi's name was but I'm sure he will be out again soon. Mad props to you burmese434. I can't wait to see what your car does once it's dialed in! That's one scary civic, haha. The SRT8 was sick too. I love the sound of that exhaust