whoa, my bad sorry flounder didnt mean to make anybody crazy mad, just trying to stir some crap , apparently i got more than what i asked for. i know how you feel about busting your ass just for a place in society, i have been working 60- hours a week and going to school full time for a year now, and its not easy nor is it my first try. i have given up twice now. i give you a one up on me for actually going through with it and finishing and getting a degree