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wow... Now do you think that your school was the norm in the country or the exception? Now that those 4 years of high school are over do you still feel "oppressed?" If you're fat, you can lose weight. If you don't like your school, you can switch schools. If you are black, you're going to always be black. I'm not going to continue to justify this post with a response. But I've got to comment on your Dr. That's awesome that she did well for herself. Ask her how much easier would it have been had she been a white man. Ask her if she would've applied or gotten into other schools if that were the case. Ask her how many times she gets asked if she's the "nurse?" Ask her how many times she gets told, "wow, you speak very well." Ask her how many times she gets asked for ID when she writes a check. Ask her WHY she went into surgery as opposed to other fields of medicine. I know LOTS of black surgeons and lots of them have told me that they went into surgery because whites have a hard time going to a general practioner who is black. Shitty, I like you dude. But, you're wrong on this one. Lets not escalate this.

In court proceedings, where a person enters a "not guilty" plea, that is all that is said. A defendant would be insane to state, "we did not do this because of the noose, we did it for some other reason... and oh, by the way we plead not guilty." They plead not guilty and schedule another date. And just because I feel that that sometimes a bully needs to be socked in the mouth does not mean he should be killed. I never said that or wrote it. So despite how you wanna "interpret" what I wrote, we all know that those are two entirely different things. And I do agree with you. If you are a criminal, you should be treated like a criminal. But as I stated in my original post we need to treat apples like apples. Their cupablity does not rise to level of adult level felonies which would result in many years in prison. And I NEVER said the assault was justified. Because it was not justified. They should be punished for what they did... Juvenile level felony assault.

"The fight followed a series of racially charged incidents that included white students hanging nooses from a tree at the school. They were not charged." "The fight among the youths was sparked after several nooses were hung from that tree." Source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-09-20-jena-rally_N.htm As a result, my point IS valid. Beating up a kid and killing an entire school with guns are 2 entirely different things. That is an elementary comparison. Were the Jenna 6 wrong for what they did??? ABSOLUTELY!!! Do they deserve to face attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder charges as adult??? Should they be charged with adult felonies and go to prison??? Hell no! BTW Satan, please don't try and compare you being a fat kid in high school to being a black kid in high school.

"It is appalling that President Ahmadinejad, one of the world's leading sponsors of terror, would find it appropriate to visit this hallowed ground," State Department spokesman Tom Casey said. If that is the case then why is he even here?!?!?! If this is such a bad dude then why not prevent him from entering the country? Why have this 'diplomatic' meetings in such? I think this whole thing smells fishy. I think its being hyped up just to show once again that the U.S. is being "tough on those damn terrorists thugs."

I have read all of the posts on this thread and I find it interesting that even though lots of you want these defendants to spend time in jail, you've forgotten to mention one important point. Three months prior to the beating a noose was hung from a tree on the campus of that school (although some say it was unrelated to the beating). The noose was hung from the tree because some black students wanted to sit under the tree that was considered a "white" hangout spot. With attempted murder, you must have the intent to kill. Here, I do not believe any trier of fact could find that any of these youths possessed that intent. Intent to fuck up a kid... yes. Intent to send a message... yes. Intent to end a life... I don't think so. Also, you don't need a court date to dismiss a murder charge. If the murder charge is baseless the prosecutor should dismiss the charge immediately. The fact that the others are still charged with murder is bogus. You all may hate Jackson and Sharpton, but even though they have made some silly off handed comments in the media and said some stupid racist things, they have also done lots of good things for black people as well as other people in this country. Additionally, whether you agree with them or not, they are standing up for people who do not have the social or political pull to stand up for themselves. Now if 6 skaters were being picked on by jocks for years and years and then those 6 skaters decided to stomp the team quarterback I think 99 percent of you here would probably praise those actions. Saying that the quarterback got what he deserved. If that is the case, then why are so quick to send these 6 youths to prison? If you think these youths should go to prison regardless, then that's a different story. If so then you are also stating that any highschool fight where someone gets "jumped" needs to go to adult prison. Do you really wanna accept such a policy? Every high school fight where its not one on one should go to prison. Despite the taunting that may have happened in the past, despite this being the youths first offense, you are advocating jail time. And if you believe that, then you're off in your own reality.

I will go ahead and let you buy into that logic if you'd like.

Saturday works best. Mapquest said it was about that long. More like 45 minutes on my bike. I figure, I'll meet up with you guys, ride for about 2 hours and then head back, depending on where we are in Ohio. I'll be sore as hell on Sunday, but I'm good. Last weekend I rode 5 hours and wasn't too uncomfortable during the 4-5 hour mark. The earlier the better. I like to leave here by 10:00 and then be back at around 4 or 5 at the latest.

Its about an hour and 1/2 away. Not too-too bad. Sent you my number Ninja.

your 07 is acting like that!!! Damn I'd be pissed.

Oh, I agree. I think he's right. If he lived 100 years as a righteous man, people would still remember him for 1 thing.

I could meet some of you maniacs in Wilmington.

You're a Hall of Fame running back who has multiple acting roles in movies, marry a gergous blonde who is WAY younger than you, tried and acquitted in the biggest murder trial this country has ever seen, and THEN write a book about "hypothecially" killing 2 people.... Yeah, people tend to remember those things about you.

I didn't know you were into heavy set black men... (Note to self, "continue to workout and do 1,000 crunches tonight") Pedro???

Just because a guy is acquitted does not mean he is innocent of the charge. Two totally different things.

"Jailbait" pics of young girls; discussion of races from city to city; downloadable music; threads of getting into fights with other bikers on the highway...

Yeah... If I got away with killing 2 people, I'd probably take it easy and lay low for the rest of my life.

When and where are you guys headed. I'd like to try and meet up if possible. I'm sure I can grab some other Columbus folks to join me.

I'm out... Gotta watch MMA at 8.

Is this still going to happen?

There was a lot of doubt in that case. The whole Beyond a Reasonable Doubt thing is meant to protect us all. I followed the case very closely and the prosecutors fumbled that case. It was a fumble... O.J. is going to prison.

IMHO, letters should contain information regarding your experience with Justin and your interaction with him. The best letters will be those from people who have known him for a long time and who can speak on his usual behavior. If you are gonna mention that you're from "Ohio Riders," you'd better indicate exactly what type of group we are. You'd better stress our stance on safety and on following the law. You know, how we wear helmets and gear, etc. That being said, using or mentioning Ohio Riders may draw some attention to this site. You all may want to think twice about specifically mentioning Ohio Riders by name or using letterhead. The "Columbus to Zanesville" thread comes to mind here. Good luck Proud Pops.

what county did this happen? what is the name of his attorney?

didn't 4 guys get into a wreck the last poker run?

yeah, this was posted a bit ago: http://www.ohio-riders.net/showthread.php?t=6029