Got a point..except I'm not sure once I finally get some sleep tonight ...that I'm gonna be able to wake up. Black folks can ride motorcycles now? We gave them basketball and golf...and now they wanna ride? pffft Eh..if I'm gonna go, I don't really want to ride to 82/83 and THEN head to Lakewood. I'd rather just head to Lakewood if I'm gonna make a stop before QSL. I was trying to avoid getting to QSL too soon...but if the ride starts at 1 I guess meeting in Lakewood isn't that bad. I REALLY REALLY need to get some sleep tonight, and how much I get determines if I go. It's been a busy 3 months, and I'm mainlining caffeine just to stay awake most days. I'll check the forum in the AM if I can get up.