Mojoe, your right, Jason is awesome! Im not telling anyone to just pop pills and hope for results. I Work out everyday with a large amount of cardio,weight lifting, and mixed martial arts. Supplements are just that, supplemental. I do not take "diet pills" regularly, just amonth before I have a fight, a show, or in this instance the Arnold Classic. Fitness has always been apart of my life and I consider myself "knowledgable".
People get into trouble when they abuse substances or use for long periods of time. Taking the recommended doses for the right amount of time is how it should be...
ps the most important part like mojoe said is the right amount of meals, with the right foods. Leaning out is impossible if you dont eat a strict diet.