Bastards. I just posted in the other thread....Here is a copy of it... Lets say 10AM on heading to Cedarville by 10:15. I'm not taking the interstate for sure. Got a route planned, around 35 miles to Cedarville. Google says 1 hour, but we can do it quicker. It's a fairly direct route, but a couple twists and more or less just avoiding the interstate. That's really all I care about. For anyone that cares