as far as deals from members go, i know with my bike, i dont want to list it at a ridiculously low price on here. anyone can read the forums and send pms once they sign up, so where i might let my bike go for less to someone i know on here, i dont want everybody and their mother to know what id really let the bike go for. seems to me like nobody wants to haggle anymore. obo means make an offer and well talk about it.