Don't get the HD. They're horrible machines. no power, and just garbage. I was actually talking last night with this guy I know, always had sport bikes, messed up his back and had to have surgery 2 years ago so he got a HD because the constant lean was hurting his back. He said the HD rides so bad that he's all but quit riding because he can't take the pain, it has NO brakes and is down right scary to try to stop from speed, has terrible head shake above 70mph, and in general quality control is "if it rolls out the door its good enough" That was about it, basically went on about how heavy and slow it is, and that your basically buying a bike that is built EXACTLY how it was in 1954, for 2015 prices, how there's a $100 dollar fee to walk into a dealer and they never have anything in stock, even though they all use the same parts just shuffled around from model to model and painted different colors. Harleys are garbage, you can get a much better, dependable bike for much less money. Personally I like the Suzie Boulavards, and the Honda VTX's