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I'm not straying. The facts are:
1) Woman had a job making ends meet
2) Walmart came in, depressed wages, she no longer has employment that can sustain her lifestyle.
3) Consider the type of lifestyle one can have making $15/hr and raising 5 kids... I'm sure it's not steak tartar each night in their 3000sq ft home.
4) What sacrifices do you make as a parent that wouldn't detrimentally affect your kids?
I get the whole business cycle and capitalism and whatnot, but there comes a point, or a line in the sand, where it becomes destructive to society. We as Americans need to decide if we want the country divided into haves and have nots, part of the country first-world, and part second- or third-world.
I tell you what I don't want - I don't want college education to become a commodity where that's the minimum standard, because that'll make another barrier to enter society in the labor market and saddle people with debt they'll never be able to pay off in their lifetimes. So, in order to keep that from happening, there need to be opportunities for the lesser educated to make a LIVING wage in order to survive without gov't assistance. If they want to better their lives by pursuing further education or opening up their own business, then that's an option, but you don't want the only options to be "welfare or college" especially since there are no guarantees that a college degree == a job or more $$$, and now there's additional debt these people have to pay. Not to mention making all other college degrees worth less because everyone has one... it no longer serves as a tool to differentiate people. Not that a degree is the only rubric for hiring, but it's a differentiator.
I think you struggle with the fact that there are more people like her that are the norm, than people like you.
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I was a huge Veloster fan after watching the Rallycross and it appeared to be a pretty cool hatchback, but there are some issues that make it not so ready for primetime.
That's the major one...
But the infotainment cluster and the DCT have issues as well.
It may be a good car for the price, and I'm sure Hyundai dealers would fix the issues under warranty, but if it spends more time in the shop than in my garage, it's more of a hassle than it's worth.
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That's because they moved the UFO back to area 51. Can't blame that on Obama.
Who ordered the move?
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I didn't say any of that - but they're using her emotions about her inability to plan for bad things happening "I was scared. I cried. I shook" to evoke emotions about Walmart. Is that fair? If I was scared, cried, and shook because you said something mean to me on the internet, when I knew that there was a possibility that you would and I would have my feelings hurt and I came to the internet anyway, would you support the notion that you're a horrible person because I didn't plan appropriately? OR would you say my skin was too thin and blame me for my emotions?
Lets get one thing straight. I'm a horrible person on AND off the internet. You can't take that away from me.
And I could care less about the "emotions". I'm not a 'bleeding heart'-type of guy... if I was, I'd have 40M pets to take care of because of those damn ASPCA commercials and Sarah Mclachlan songs. I look at the facts, which is why my concern was comparing the delta between her old wage/benefits to the current wage/benefits. The one where she was make ends meet, and the one where that's no longer feasible. I'm not faulting Wallyworld for her way of emotionally coping with it.
If you have 5 children, and the possibility of you losing your job isn't something that you plan for, then you're a moron. Your feelings about you being a moron shouldn't be used to demonize a company. IMO.True. How much money should you set aside for losing your job when you're living paycheck to paycheck? Because what it ends up boiling down to is judgement of others' on what they've chosen to do w/ their life. Some people choose $15/hr jobs because higher education doesn't suit them (or a liberal arts degree
), or because they want to be mothers'/fathers' and spend more time raising their kids... others choose to pursue Masters and Doctorates because that's what they enjoy or aspire the lifestyle that comes along with those accolades. So again, when you're making $15/hr and living paycheck to paycheck with 5 kids... how much should you set aside for emergencies? What do you sacrifice to make those savings? Want to judge her for having 5 kids, then I suppose we should implement some income criteria for having kids...? I dunno. Or are you just saying you're just happy to have the smug satisfaction of judging someone who may/may not have made the same choices as you?
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Subaru BRZ (either new, or just barely used (<8k) for a small price break)
Pros: New, warrantied, quality build, fun, decent MPG.
Cons: Insurance, winter
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This is what I was talking about before though. Demonizing a store/company when the "victims" are people who have 5 children and are the "chief breadwinner" in their family at <$15 an hour. Yeah, she was upset she lost her job, but tell me that she didn't benefit from paying the lower prices that wally world offers to buy her litter of children stuff.
How do you want to solve that problem? She HAD a living wage apparently... so, you want to do income-based sterilization? I don't think that'll sit well with the pro-life church-going crowd. What if I base my budget / lifestyle on my current wage, then all of a sudden it's cut 40%? Should we just make everyone start living on 50% of their pay in order to account for that?
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And if people and Walmart are so confident in the "vote with your dollars" argument, why are they so scared of a couple peaceful protests within peoples' Constitutional rights?
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The Wal-Mart effectIts Chinese imports have displaced nearly 200,000 U.S. jobs
http://www.epi.org/publication/ib235/
http://www.businesspundit.com/stats-on-walmart/The world’s biggest retailer, U.S.-based Wal-Mart was responsible for $27 billion in U.S. imports from China in 2006 and 11% of the growth of the total U.S. trade deficit with China between 2001 and 2006. Wal-Mart’s trade deficit with China alone eliminated nearly 200,000 U.S. jobs in this period.The manufacturing sector and its workers were hardest hit by the growth of Wal-Mart’s imports. Wal-Mart’s increased trade deficit with China eliminated 133,000 manufacturing jobs, 68% of those jobs lost from Wal-Mart’s imports. Jobs in the manufacturing sector pay higher wages and provide better benefits than most other industries, especially for workers with less than a college education.
Supersizing Supercenters? The Impact of Wal-Mart Supercenters on Body Mass Index and Obesity
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1263316
An additional Supercenter per 100,000 residents increases average BMI by 0.24 units and the obesity rate by 2.3 percentage points. These results imply that the proliferation of Walmart Supercenters explains 10.5% of the rise in obesity since the late 1980s, but the resulting increase in medical expenditures offsets only a small portion of consumers’ savings from shopping at Supercenters.Pulitzer prize winning articles on the effects of Walmart (both good and bad) via LA Times
http://www.pulitzer.org/works/2004-National-Reporting
But the most telling/sad thing is I specifically searched for "Positive Things about Walmart" and the links above are what showed up.
And, just so we're clear... Walmart's official corporate position was backing Obamacare. So, keep that in mind.
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It's almost as bad as the war on typewriters...
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These are the same idiots that voted this guy in, and we trust them to vote w/ their dollars too?
Right?
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You know something is up when people swear that Obama destroys all other businesses and yet Walmart is still thriving. Then it obviously stands to reason that Walmart is liberal and socialist and must be stopped to save America.
Right?
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Completely stupid way of looking at it, or just disingenuous. Which is it?
Interesting... that's why stupid and disingenuous guys with PhDs at institutions of higher learning devote their time to that very issue...
http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/retail/walmart.pdf
Rebuttal to you Dr. Swingset.
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I can tolerate 4 more years of GOP whining...
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I'll give Walmart credit on their business model... have the gov't subsidize their healthcare.
Walmart's healthcare plan is Medicaid. So, I suppose if I'm going to pay taxes to provide the poor with healthcare, then they should be able to provide me some discounts.
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If the UAW got significant traction in the South...I'd bet a dollar that foreign auto makers would look elsewhere to build. Including outside the US alltogether.
Did you bother reading my link?
What benefits does the UAW provide over non-union labor to the company or the consumer? Little if any.
Well, considering that communities can grow and be sustainable when you pay your workers a living wage where they can afford to buy the products they produce... that'd be a benefit. And again, it's a race to the bottom if the unions weren't there to at least keep the companies in check. Even the non-union people benefit from the labor agreements, benefit packages, and working conditions the unions have fought for. I know a lot of people enjoy having vacation days.
The UAW is a self serving group that is even willing to screw it's younger members to benefit the old timers.
There's the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" issue. No pleasing people. The unions make concessions and they're "screwing the younger members", but if they don't they're "greedy union thugs". If I've put in 20 years and promised a pension after 10yrs of service and a certain hourly wage for my labor, why would I give that up?
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Kind of interesting that they're heading south of the Mason-Dixon for "cheap" labor.. history repeating itself?
There are a few reasons why foreign automakers don't have unions, but to say "They don't need a union" discounts the fact that they are run the way they are run BECAUSE of the unions like the UAW. And, honestly, if your source of income was from a non-union job, you'd be crazy to start talking about a union. Despite the fact that anti-union propaganda is everywhere from management, but as soon as you speak of unionizing and being a supporter thereof, you might as well paint a target on your back. Others' might agree with you, but you'd never know. Even if they did agree, most of them are too spineless to stand up for their beliefs either if it meant potentially sacrificing their jobs.
Would you argue politics with your boss if you disagree with him/her?
How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the U.S. While Paying Its Workers Twice as Much
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I haven't watched it.. but it seemed relevant to this thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jazb24Q2s94
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FormatFactory might do it.
Really easy program to use.
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Most workers I know have had pay cuts, no raises, no cost of living, along with increases in health care over the last three years. Not to mention modified pensions. Along with other changes like no over time, less personal days, no hiring, hiring part timers, etc. I wouldn't expect anyone to see anything different right now.
And...? So, just because it's happening to everyone else makes it ok for the greed to continue to perpetuate? This is exactly why unions still need to exist. It's the only thing left that forces "big business" to honor their commitments to the little guy. The ones without unions still need that fear of unions to keep them honest. This "suck it up and bear it" is a tired sad song sung by the ones who don't have to sacrifice (management) and jealousy from the rest of the non-union crowd that "If I have to sacrifice and get boned by mgmt, then everyone else should have to as well". That's a sad selfish way of thinking.
You think if I went to the bank and asked to modify my mortgage because everyone else was doing it and getting foreclosed on, they'd let me?
They made a mistake.Disagree. They did exactly what they should've done if someone didn't honor a contract agreement.
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OMG, the job creators' secret recipe is out... how will they ever create more jobs?
What's next recipes for Outback Bloomin' Onions? It'll go under next.
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Hmm... still the unions fault.
Don’t Worry, Hostess’ Top Executives Still Got Richer As Company Collapsed
http://gawker.com/5961444/dont-worry-hostess-top-executives-still-got-richer-as-company-collapsed
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That reporter was horribly fishing for the anti-union sentiment. She almost should've just came out and told the CEO to say "It's the union's fault".
But I like how when something goes wrong "there's plenty of blame to go around", but when things go right its because the CEO and leadership was great despite the union (the people that actually MAKE the product).
$20,000 for an automobile, what would you buy?
in Dumpster
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Your problems have been solved... by GM... back in 1992.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMC_Typhoon
AWD for winter
Robust 4.3L w/ Turbo for making your naughty bits tingle
Unless you totally let it go BTS, the market has hit the price floor for these rarity/collector vehicles.