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  1. State Dept spends $70,000 on Obama's Books

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    You want to keep saying "Well Bush did...". So As per Casper's article:

    Obama and Clinton didn't benefit from the sale of any of their books. If Obama was smart, he would come out and say "I had no idea this was happening. We don't have the money for this and it's wrong for me to gain financially from the spending of your tax dollars. I am therefore ceasing the buying of my books with your money and donating 100% of the profits to _______" I won't hold my breath.

    I use Bush as an example because its RECENT and usually because 'if its its good for the goose, it should be good for the gander' to keep the hypocrites at bay. Obviously this isn't an example because they didn't buy Bush's or Clinton's books, but has anyone actually read the books listed in the article? Maybe the subject matter is relevant to diplomacy vs. Bush or Clinton books which, iirc, are memoirs post-presidency, which aren't really relevant until after-the-fact.

    So the ends justify the means is what you're saying. Heck, we could start laundering money. Imagine all the jobs we could make. And Obama could skim some money off the top. It'd be just a little so it's not a big deal.

    So, you're accusing the state dept of laundering money to the president? Really, that's where you wanna take this argument?

    Again, why are you hung up on Obama being the one who did it? I don't think the articles said he did and I didn't say it. Defensive or something? How many other frivolous expenditures do you think there are? I mean it's just $70K. We have a surplus of money and all. It's not that much money in the grande scheme of things, we can splurge.
    I'm only hung up on it because I got trolled into the 'where are all the Obama defenders in this thread?' comment, plus - I had time to argue in between test runs.

  2. State Dept spends $70,000 on Obama's Books

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    I actually agree with the socialist Justin on this one. This has nothing to with Obama from what I read except the book is about him. We have enough stuff against the socialist in chief why nit pick stuff he doesn't control. This nit pick crap is what the liberals do, if we go down that path we are no better than the America haters like Justin.

    Why bush spent that money with congressional approval, Justin your messiah has continued the spending and started another conflict in Libya! What business do we have being in Libya? :dunno:

    While many here enjoy the baseless name calling, accusations, and general perjorative nature of your posts Charles from Salem, you let me know when you want to get beyond a 5th grade level of debate tactics and want to have an adult discussion. Mmmkay?

  3. State Dept spends $70,000 on Obama's Books

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    Posted · Edited by JRMMiii

    There's nothing to defend :dunno:

    This.

    Per the article Casper posted:

    1) These decisions were made by people in the state dept.

    2) Its common to give books away as gifts of diplomacy

    3) Obama personally stands to gain, what, around $6,000? And he typically donates over 40x that much each year. So, 90% of that money went to whatever publishing company printed the books, "creating" or keeping those jobs... I figured the conservatives would be happy about that :dunno:

    So, there's nothing to defend. No matter what Obama does or doesn't do - haterz gon hate. Billions spent by Bush playing in the Iraqi sandbox, and people are raising a fuss over $70k of "waste" on diplomacy that wasn't even directed by Obama to buy his books.

    Got it.

  8. New 64 1/2 -66 Mustang --- FROM FORD?

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    Posted · Edited by JRMMiii

    So no, they didn't take a government handout.

    That's just funny.

    An energy subsidy or other govt subsidies aren't handouts? I'll have to remember that.

    And you'll have to explain the funny... funny haha funny? Funny because its true funny? When 90%+ of your manufacturing business comes from the big 3, and 40% of that vanishes overnight... you don't believe that would've affected Ford?

    If I price widget 'A', say a door hinge assembly, on a production run of 3M parts a year, and all of a sudden 1.2M parts ordered are cancelled, you don't think that'll have an impact on the revenue I'd lose, the price per piece of what I sell to Ford now, or the fact that I might not even be able to afford the payments of my labor, lease, and equipment when they are only running at 60% the operational effectiveness? I'd be better to just file bankruptcy, close shop, and walk away with what I have.

    But Ford will just find another supplier of door hinges right? If they're smart, which they probably are, they likely already have 2 or 3 separate suppliers for key components - ya know, a supply base diversification strategy. The door hinge probably isn't one of those 'key' components, but let's say it is... good luck getting the other suppliers to ramp up to those kind of production levels overnight. The demand planner would shit bricks. And, you're probably sharing those OTHER suppliers with GM too... so they're in the same boat as the first scenario.

    So, just start fresh right? Lucky for you, when GM forced me to go bankrupt with my last company, I repurchased all those assets back from the bank for pennies on the dollar, renamed the company, and fired it right back up. It just took a few weeks. What do you think it costs Ford to idle their production line when they don't have the right parts? Its on the scale of Millions of dollars per HOUR. Try doing that for 4 weeks.

    Last scenario I can imagine is starting fresh with a new supplier. With the timeline and cost it takes to make production tooling, PPAPing, and meeting the stringent quality standards of automotive OEs... that'll be an even greater economic penalty than if you lucked out going back to a 'renamed' supplier post-bankruptcy.

    So, I still don't get the funny

    :confused:

  10. xbox live gamertags

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    It's hard to find a room in multiplayer... it seems most Forza people are loners in career-mode.

    I do like that Forza now has car "soccer" like in Top Gear, and the "Cat and Mouse" game that was in PGR. The LeMans multi-class stuff is cool too. 16 cars, 4 in each class on the track at the same time.

  17. Cash not allowed by LAW?

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    Republican majority in LA and a Republican governor that signed this.

    Yea, those Republicans are really towing that small business line by taking away economic freedom to use our own paper currency to conduct transactions.

    This bill was basically made to put flea marketers out of business.

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