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If you dont drink, then yes, you should be allowed to carry, but people who go to bars and dont drink at all are the exception, not the rule. Right, people break the law all the time. That doesn't make it OK. Consequences as a deterrent is the way to go about a lot of things, but when it comes to things like this, prevention is the best way. The drunk driving example is the one that comes closest to this situation that I can think of. The gun is in youre control when you are drunk, and you are in a public place where conflicts can happen and others can get hurt. Same with drunk driving. You are in control of the vehicle, on public roads, where conflicts can happen and others can get hurt. Both are considered weapons, and should be operated with an unaltered state of mind.

And I agree with you, but I know you dont take your family out to a bar. And again, chances of the bar being the scene of robbery < it being the scene of a bar fight. You are absolutely right.

Before you start telling me about people killing others in a carjacking, robbery etc, think about this. I was born and raised in the city with the highest crime rate in the WORLD. #1 in carjacking, and believe me, carrying a gun on you is not going to save you. They shoot first, and then take what they want. Where cars need to be equipped with anti hijacking equipment, aka flamethrowers and bullit proof glass. Thats the funny thing about being robbed, its unexpected. In a bar, the best thing that can come from someone carrying a gun, is to prevent multiple killings, which is good, but honestly, how often does that happen? The chances of a bar fight breaking out, and then someone trying to prove his manhood pulls out a gun is a lot more likely. Redwings example was a comical example, so I'm glad you found it laughable. But then you try to say that there are people who have no motive to kill, but then laugh at the fact that someone will kill based on emotion or no logical reason...hmmm...contradicting. I never said I had a problem with sober people being able to carry. But its a fucking bar, and people drink and get drunk at a bar. Last thing I want to see is a gun on some drunk bastard at the bar. So no, better luck to you chief

I trust those people too, when they haven't been drinking. I can maybe say ok to Bdubs, since its restaurant like, but at a full fledge bar, people go for one reason, and that is to drink. Alcohol causes fights, the feeling of being invincible and logic doesnt play a part in the thinking process anymore.

Thats exactly the problem too, people cant just settle things the old fashioned way. Any homo can pull a trigger EDIT: Dont get me wrong, I enjoy guns just as much as the rest of you, but this is one thing that I do not think is a good idea at all.

In the event that a bar gets robbed, give them what they want and no one gets hurt. But now, some guy gets pissed off at the Redwings fan next to him after he had a couple of beers, and BAM, someone gets shot. Like the article said, you wouldnt want someone to drink and drive, but want someone to drink have a gun on him?

Grow a pair

Why the hell would anybody want this? Fucking hillbillies

anti-splash pile eh? I like it!

How about this...we'll see who can get the fastest lap time around mid-ohio?

True story

Maybe NTR in august?

pwnt

When you get a car thats worth my time to race.

You're clearly gay.

Vehicles: Pontiac, Chevy :gtfo:

I got your M3 competition right here buddy...:bangbang:

audi has been using that look way before the evo 10, circa ~2003

Yea, its going to be pricey. But the R8 is 100K+, especially now with the R8 V10. Since it says it will be above the S5, I think it will be in the 60-80k range.

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Daily driver = Veyron. Track car = F1.

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