now see i have loved politics from the time was little. but i still agree with you our generation is pretty pathetic. hell look at the rock the vote bullshit!! and yes im tired of seeing all this give me shit too. Honest to god i checked it out awhile back and i have been paying into social security since i was 14, that was when i "officially" started getting paid for working for our family business. Nothing makes me more mad than watching someone work the system. this is why i fear the perminant welfare state or underclass that is coming, and they are content with it cuz they keep getting the handouts for doing nothing.