Hey zero I understand the whole sales process I've honestly had at least 8 brand new bikes I'm no kid maybe still at heart at 43 but lets not finagle get down to buisness. I cant remember what his name was younger guy 5' 9 about 225 dark hair with some highlights. he really did'nt have to much riding experience the way he talked. I know they were busy Sat but I stood around with my son for at least 45 min before any salesman even came up to talk to me. And there were salesmen available. But I'm over it just did'nt mean to cause all the controversy. Some kick ass guys on this site though. Thanks for everything.