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lol...thanks bro

Thank you. I can't seperate neutrals and grounds in the house sub-panel. there's no way and the bars are connected to eachother but I will add the ground rods. What do you mean add a number 6 to the sub-panel? House or garage and #6 ground wire?

Pm sent to be put in line. That's a fair deal.

Thanks but i'm slightly confused. Ok so here is an awesome schematic...The garage panel at the bottom I wrote not bonded but shouldn't it be bonded? I take bonded to mean the metal box connects the nuetrals to the grounds or a ground but everything's connected anyway. Everything else I have seen is, or basically neutrals and grounds have two paths to an actual ground (ground rod) and to the electric company neutral, which the neutral/ground wires all go to the same place. I have not hooked up the garage panel.

Me neither. Glad they do. Picked up at a local electric supply house. Actually walked in and put my hand on it amongst a dozen other bags of breakers while I was telling her what I needed and it was what I needed. Got lucky.

But everything pulls through the 200 amp breaker in the house before it goes anywhere in the house or to the garage so it would be impossible to pull more than 200 amps without blowing the main 200 amp breaker.

I have 200 amp panel for the garage ill hook up.I'll bond it and reconnect the ground rod that's out there. don't need a ground wire from the house. There's 2 hots and a neutral feeding the garage.The panel in the house is 200 amp that feeds the garage. The wires that feed the garage will be on the main 200 amp breaker then on another 200 amp breaker in the garage. The electrical shop guy said the breaker looking thing I got was for just this sort of thing. I'll post a pic.

I's a profesornal. I just turn off the main 200 breaker and it's all dead.

Problem solved. Found a 200amp plug in that looks like a breaker but is not and a big lug for the neutral

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I agree 100 amp is fine i only updated to 200 amp in the house because of the heat pumps emergency heat. It ran the the heat pump fine for 6 months we just didn't wire in the second set of heater coils. 100 amp would be fine.The wires too big to fit in the breaker though? Same problem in the garage the wires wouldn't fit in the lugs in the 100amp box as an entrance wire so I just bought a 200 amp box. Hope i can find a breaker with big lug holes. Or i just trim back a couple of strands of wire and make it fit the lugs?

Thanks. They are all Murray panels. No pipes to hook to. Electric company said they didn't care since their neutral is also tied to the ground rod outside the house. It's all the same once bonded if you ask me but that's another topic. That electric supplyonline breaker is what I need. Not liking the $1700 price though.

Thanks. Not arguing but how could I need four wires? There's only 3 coming from the electric company. I can ground at the box in the garage it's the same thing? Bond the main panel or the sub panel? I remember something about that but not which one.The meter box is grounded to the neutral coming from the power company. I can't hook the garage wires to a 100amp breaker, that was the plan and now the problem the lugs aren't big enough to accept the wire?

200amp panel in house that feeds a 100amp sub also for house. The below is the garage. I bought a 200 amp box for this, everything will hook up. See the big 3 wire(4/0 alum) in the bottom left. That wire I ran underground in conduit about 70 feet to the house. The white shielded wire currently comes from the meter on the garage. I don't want a meter for the garage because it currently run the well pump and a small amount of garage stuff and costs $20 even if I don't use it. Also the bigger reason there is a telephone pole in the middle of my driveway and then another with a transformer on it on the side of the driveway. Below is the 200 amp panel in the house. The wires are too big to connect to the lugs of a 100 amp breaker and they don't seem to make a breaker with bigger lugs or a 200amp breaker let alone what in the world I should connect the ground wire to in the box. No zoning where I'm at but electric company said they'd want me to use the big ass wire since the distance is 100' and I'd like 200 amp service in the garage since I'm planning on rebuilding someday with a bonus room. See the big black entrance wires that the house runs off of at the top. My new wires are the same. I'm hoping they make some kind of lug jumper or something and I could splice in the wires I ran to the garage.

I have two power meters. 1 for house, 1 for garage. Eliminating the one on the garage. I ran the huge 3 individual 200 amp wires from house to garage underground about 100'. Bought a 200 amp box for the garage. No real issue there. But , in the house I have a 200amp main breaker panel that feeds the 100amp sub panel that mostly feeds the house. The lugs arent big enough to hook this 200 amp wire up to. Not sure if they make a 200 amp breaker that will fit in the Murray box. I just need a pass through basically from entrance cable feeding the house or box to tie the big ass wires I ran to the garage. Might have to break down and call an electrician.

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Never heard that one before but it's logical.

Some little boy is very sad now.

If it doesn't work out you can use it for a rough truck competition...they do amazingly great thru the moguls

Awe man, cat litter will be in short supply. I can eat the bastard.

Here's the pics. I did it in 1994 with no money. Now with a job i'll do it better. I don't really have a good pic when it was completed. http://s494.photobucket.com/albums/rr301/GUMP74/Bronco/ There's not a thing that has not been replaced on the this truck mechanically. I got a lead on one that has a painted frame and he says restored body. Their are many versions of what someone would call excellant when it comes to body conditions. Nice paint doesn't mean anything.

I'll throw thumb tacks, and you'll crash...

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Have cash. Need a frame mainly for a restore project. Doesn't need to run. Decent cab and drivers side door would be nice and one with the a/c option.