Mehhh... I hear what you're sayin', but very little is done by hand over there anymore, other than assembly. Poole cads everything in the computer, then they water jet & put together Rick's about the only one who does any hand fabbing anymore It amuses me how the show used to be 2-4 episodes devoted to a particular bike, & now they usually slap 'em out in one show PJD is more how OCC used to be when they got their break. I got bored & quit watching for several years, until the whole rift between Jr & Sr happened OCC anymore belongs on that "How it's Made" automated show