YSR_Racer_99 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 "Could be worse, Bush didn't even know how to use one". Really? You're going with that? Ahhh, the "accepting and compassionate" liberal mindset. Liberals are typically the most angry, hostile, self-serving, denigrating people I run into.And those don't appear to be Marines holding the umbrella over President Reagan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 The point is that it doesn't matter what the president does or doesn't do, he has critics that will use any and all percieved lapses in judgement, no matter how miniscule, minute, or insignificant as collective evidence of a fundamental character flaw that they can't wait to expose to the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) The point is that it doesn't matter what the president does or doesn't do, he has critics that will use any and all percieved lapses in judgement, no matter how miniscule, minute, or insignificant as collective evidence of a fundamental character flaw that they can't wait to expose to the world.This.Every president gets the same treatment, and it's stupid either way. Edited May 17, 2013 by Scruit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Likewise, the president also has fanboys and nutswingers who refuse to aknowledge any actual failure, misstep, or mistake and retain the belief that this president is their god's infallible gift to the known universe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 And those don't appear to be Marines holding the umbrella over President Reagan.What difference does it make who holds the umbrella? You want the secret service guys to hold it? Or did we suddenly invent a "Must get wet" rule for presidents now?Question: Are those marines armed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Likewise, the president also has fanboys and nutswingers who refuse to aknowledge any actual failure, misstep, or mistake and retain the belief that this president is their god's infallible gift to the known universe.All presidents have that too. It makes it very easy to see who is too blinded by their political prejudice to make rational decisions on a case-by-case basis - They are militant apologists for their own party and unapologetic militants against the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 You hit the nail on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 As commander in chief he has the authority to order those marines to lick dog shit off his shoes so get over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 There are far more important issues than a marine holding an umbrella and I don't know what this "marine code is" but I know a couple soldiers that have met presidents and said it was a great experience and honor so I'd imagine it's probably a greater honor for them to even be at the white house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner75 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I met former president Bush when I was in the navy, several of my junior sailors and him had a very entertaining conversation with him for over an hour. Was very humbling. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) President Bush is smarter than most people on this forum. That's not a joke' date=' either.[/quote'] Edited May 17, 2013 by Scruit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictly Street Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) "Could be worse, Bush didn't even know how to use one". This space intentionally left blank to avoid offending anyone 2012Neither does Obama! :lol:Maybe it's a DC thing. Edited May 17, 2013 by Strictly Street Missed half the quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Neither does Obama! :lol:Maybe it's a DC thing.Looks like Obama is just passing the umbrella from one hand to the other because it won't fit through the doorway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Smug little SOB isn't he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Nobody answered if the Marines were armed. Anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 What a smug POS he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTrainDriver Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Nobody answered if the Marines were armed. Anyone know?Those particular Marines? No. They are not armed.For lack of a better word, and being a former Marine myself... no disrespect is meant...those particular Marines are ornamental.Now, the Secret Service that's surrounding everything...that you don't see in the pictures, yes, they are armed. Heavily.I have a good friend that is a SS agent, he told me about working the parade after the president was elected. If you watched it, all SS agents wore the same black trench coats. Underneath those coats were mini 14s slung over their backs, and each agent carried three spare mags. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 why the fuck would they carry mini 14s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAC Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Clinton > Lincoln?Table Credibility = 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTrainDriver Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 why the fuck would they carry mini 14s?My apology, I was incorrect.The Colt M4 is what was carried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 My apology, I was incorrect.The Colt M4 is what was carried.Still a lot of gun to conceal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 I worked for the company that molds the hand guards for the M4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 I only ask because one of the chief complaints I've heard about those Marines holding the umbrella is the one holding for Obama had his right hand occupied and he couldn't use his weapon. If they're not armed then the Marine's ability to use his non-existent weapon is therefore not really a huge concern.On the other hand, I've seen plenty of pictures of of Reagan, Bush, Clinton and other presidents having umbrellas held for them by what appear to be SS agents - at which point the SS agent is momentarily unable to draw his weapon (that we all agree he has).So, given that, doesn't it make sense that the unarmed person concentrate on the umbrella and the armed person keep his arms free?Ideally the umbrella would be held by another person, such as a butler/servant/assistant etc. But then people would complain about the money spent on that.Or maybe they don't use umbrellas at all and conclude the speech looking like a pair of half-drowned cats. Then people would complain that the foreign dignitary was mistreatedOk, what about they hold their own umbrellas? Then people would find something to complain about with that.http://www.taleswithmorals.com/aesop-fable-the-man-the-boy-and-the-donkey.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Why not have an umbrella holder on the pulpit? Then no one needs to stand there and hold it.Sent while riding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 The point is that it doesn't matter what the president does or doesn't do, he has critics that will use any and all percieved lapses in judgement, no matter how miniscule, minute, or insignificant as collective evidence of a fundamental character flaw that they can't wait to expose to the world.holy shit, I agree with Magley... I apologize if the sun rises in the West tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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